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I have a beutiful shooting condition S&W Hand Ejector 2nd Model in .44 Special.
She has a 5 inch barrel, and has been refinished, and nickel plated.
Although she is just a shooter grade, she is a beautiful revolver to me.
She is chambered in one of my all time favorite cartridges, the .44 Special.
The serial number is 24073.
Any help with dating her is greatly appreciated.
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24432 shipped on 12/8/26.
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24432 shipped on 12/8/26.
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Should mine then have shipped in October or November of 1926?

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Not necessarily. S&W did not ship in SN order. Yours was more likely 1925 production. 1925 production was in the SN 22000-25000 range. You would need a historical letter ($100) to establish an exact shipping date.
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I have 24880, it shipped on December 13, 1926. I also have 23549 that shipped on September 9, 1925
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I have another quetion.
Since it was made after World War 1, does that mean the cylinder was heat treated, and I can handload within SAAMI specs for her?

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I have another quetion.
Since it was made after World War 1, does that mean the cylinder was heat treated, and I can handload within SAAMI specs for her?

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Thank you very much! That really puts my mind at ease. Now i dont haveto worry about it blowing up in my hand.
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My second models shoot well with 240 grain lead using Unique and Trailboss at about 800 FPS by the book. Enjoy your beauty!
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My second models shoot well with 240 grain lead using Unique and Trailboss at about 800 FPS by the book. Enjoy your beauty!
Thank you very much!
What barrel length do you have?
Are you using LSWC HP´s?
Thats what I love about the .44 Special. Its amazingly accurate.

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My two second models are 6.5" barrels. I shoot the same loads in the newer 24-3 guns in 3", 5", and 6.5". All are accurate and easy on the hands and guns. I've gone to Hi Tek coated SWC bullets.
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Old myth. Shooting pre-heat treated guns with standard factory ammunition is absolutely nothing to worry about. I have yet to find one example of an early M&P shooting standard ammo blowing up!

The steel of the era was typically two to three times stronger than required to handle max chamber pressure for 44 Special, 15,500 psi. Proof testing typically was done at double pressure. Black powder loads for Model 3 revolvers are actually around the same or higher pressure as a 44 Special. Guns manufactured in the 1870s are still being shot with standard BP loads and were using much lower yield strength steel and a relatively weak top latch system. Post-1900 revolvers were using 30,0000 to 40,000 psi tensile strength steel.

Why is this misconception so prevalent, I do not know, but have read about non-heat treated revolvers being compared to the pre-heat treat Model 1903s. There is no comparison since they are talking about a 30-06 round that was capable of producing 60,000 psi, not a low pressure revolver caliber.

Your revolver is most likely chrome plated, so refinished post-factory. I have bought chrome guns in the past and most have held up just fine with shooting over the years, plus chrome adds a lot of bling at the range!!
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My two second models are 6.5" barrels. I shoot the same loads in the newer 24-3 guns in 3", 5", and 6.5". All are accurate and easy on the hands and guns. I've gone to Hi Tek coated SWC bullets.
Someone a long time ago shortened my barrel to 5 inches. I think it was 6.5 inches to begin with. The stamping on the top of the barrel is missing a little bit of lettering.
I will definitely use the alliant guidelines for the .44 Special.

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Old myth. Shooting pre-heat treated guns with standard factory ammunition is absolutely nothing to worry about. I have yet to find one example of an early M&P shooting standard ammo blowing up!



The steel of the era was typically two to three times stronger than required to handle max chamber pressure for 44 Special, 15,500 psi. Proof testing typically was done at double pressure. Black powder loads for Model 3 revolvers are actually around the same or higher pressure as a 44 Special. Guns manufactured in the 1870s are still being shot with standard BP loads and were using much lower yield strength steel and a relatively weak top latch system. Post-1900 revolvers were using 30,0000 to 40,000 psi tensile strength steel.



Why is this misconception so prevalent, I do not know, but have read about non-heat treated revolvers being compared to the pre-heat treat Model 1903s. There is no comparison since they are talking about a 30-06 round that was capable of producing 60,000 psi, not a low pressure revolver caliber.



Your revolver is most likely chrome plated, so refinished post-factory. I have bought chrome guns in the past and most have held up just fine with shooting over the years, plus chrome adds a lot of bling at the range!!
Thank for enlightening me on the manufacture process of said revolvers.
i know I shouldn't worry about using such mild pressure ammo as the .44 Special.

You are correct about the chroming. It was done post factory. It looks really nice to me. Only a few spots where it shows where someone might have dropped it and scuffed the chrome.
I am fairly sure that when I take her to the range, the young ones will no doubt stare, because #1 - Its a large revolver, #2 - Its big and shiny, #3 - Its going to have a deeper roar then their 9mm´s, or .40´s.

Ive got 3 different bullet weights Im going to use - 180gr Hornady XTP, 200gr Hornady XTP, and the ever so popular 240gr Hornady LSWCHP.

Ive been wanting to get a different pair of grips for her. Is it an N frame revolver?
Please advise me on this.

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Yep, it's an N frame.
Thank you very much!

The last N frame I had was a Model 29 .44 mag 30 years ago. I wasn't quite sure if this one was.

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