Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-18-2020, 06:12 PM
pasound's Avatar
pasound pasound is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 579
Likes: 300
Liked 698 Times in 313 Posts
Default Should I go back and look again?

Stopped in the local Cabela's today (needed some of their cheap clear ammo boxes) and browsed the very shrunken gun case. They had some interesting old Smiths - makes me wonder if they are pulling everything from the back (Gun Library is closed for now, so all stock is out front). They had a 1917 .45, looked to be a five inch, and had a lanyard ring. Price was a bit "up there" - almost $800. I didn't get to handle it - was in a hurry to get my shopping chores done at several stores.

I'm wondering if I should go back and "take a number and wait..."
__________________
Heavily armed old man.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-18-2020, 06:21 PM
22hipower 22hipower is offline
SWCA Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 3,502
Liked 3,888 Times in 1,055 Posts
Default

All depends on condition and originality. If mechanically sound and all original, even if shows lots of wear, $800 is not unreasonable. If has non-original grips, action is loose, lanyard ring is missing, front sight filed down or otherwise modified, mixed SN numbers indicating parts change, and potentially other issues, $800 not so much. I tried to find one on the Gun Library web site but it didn't show any 1917s available in WV. Good luck.

Jeff
SWCA #1457
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 05-18-2020, 06:27 PM
pasound's Avatar
pasound pasound is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 579
Likes: 300
Liked 698 Times in 313 Posts
Default

I think I will go back and look again. First glance impression was "not in bad shape at all". I need to wiggle it and take my flashlight and 4th Edition Kindle copy. Wish they didn't have those mandatory crappy trigger locks. The action is key for something like that.
__________________
Heavily armed old man.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 05-18-2020, 06:41 PM
22hipower 22hipower is offline
SWCA Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth
Posts: 1,953
Likes: 3,502
Liked 3,888 Times in 1,055 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pasound View Post
I think I will go back and look again. First glance impression was "not in bad shape at all". I need to wiggle it and take my flashlight and 4th Edition Kindle copy. Wish they didn't have those mandatory crappy trigger locks. The action is key for something like that.
If it looks like something you might want, and the clerk says he can't take off the lock, ask to speak to the Gun Library manager. They ought to be willing to take you back to the office and let you play with the gun. Too much risk in one 100 years old without checking the action. Worked for me awhile back at the Ft. Worth store. Good luck, pictures required if you get it.

Jeff
SWCA #1457
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 05-18-2020, 07:19 PM
pasound's Avatar
pasound pasound is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 579
Likes: 300
Liked 698 Times in 313 Posts
Default

Thanks for the encouragement. I have .45 ACP snap caps I could take with me to prove I just want to check. If it is a true 1917 military, it's should chamber .45 ACP, not .45 Colt. I have a 1950 "grail gun" - an M&P 38, pre-10 2". My birthday is 30 days after it was sent to the store. This 1917 gun might be close to my dad's birthday. Just thinking.
__________________
Heavily armed old man.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-18-2020, 07:25 PM
series guy series guy is online now
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: May 2010
Location: The Steel City
Posts: 1,228
Likes: 2,888
Liked 2,280 Times in 734 Posts
Default

I bought my Third Model Perfected at that store. I asked the gun library manager to pull the grips so that I could check for matching numbers. He told me that they didn't do that. I told him there was no way I handing over that kind of money without knowing as it made about a $300 difference in the value of the gun. He pulled the grips and let me come back into his office to look the gun over more thoroughly. So he made the sale.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-18-2020, 07:35 PM
pasound's Avatar
pasound pasound is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 579
Likes: 300
Liked 698 Times in 313 Posts
Default

series guy, you came to Charleston to look at a Third Model? Oh my. One of their bigger stores is in Wheeling. It's a distribution warehouse. Glad you found a good Smith. I hope to, too.
__________________
Heavily armed old man.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-18-2020, 08:03 PM
ajgunner's Avatar
ajgunner ajgunner is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tall Timber of N.W.Orygun
Posts: 458
Likes: 15
Liked 551 Times in 201 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by series guy View Post
I bought my Third Model Perfected at that store. I asked the gun library manager to pull the grips so that I could check for matching numbers. He told me that they didn't do that. I told him there was no way I handing over that kind of money without knowing as it made about a $300 difference in the value of the gun. He pulled the grips and let me come back into his office to look the gun over more thoroughly. So he made the sale.
Lucky he didn't bugger the screw for you while he was at it.

They cut me a deal on an older pistol about a year ago. While killing the hour it seems to take them to do a BG check, I mentioned numerous times that if they planned to tape the original box shut that they could save me my time and money right now. They had no idea---even as I climbed the ladder of command to explain. I watched one guy grab the tape gun and I announced LOUDLY again and told him----NO TAPE. I think he flipped me off with his eyes, then went and got someone further up the ladder. Because it was not taped shut, the guy had to walk me through the registers out to the car, and lay it in the trunk. I was still not certain that any of them understood the reason I didn't want their tape on my box that was worth over $100. I even told the guy walking out carrying my new toy that all they had to do was put the gun in the box and put that box inside a junk box, and they would have been welcome to tape that box shut.
__________________
"Tastes just like chicken"
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 05-18-2020, 08:12 PM
deyomatic deyomatic is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 710
Likes: 2,117
Liked 549 Times in 259 Posts
Default

Also, check Serial number as the lower numbers seem to be more desirable. Mine was shipped during the war, but at the end, so likely never saw service. One that did would have been much more desirable to me.
GHS inspection stamp mark, grooved hammer...all of that would make it more desirable, too. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-18-2020, 08:31 PM
Skwirl Skwirl is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 200
Likes: 25
Liked 336 Times in 119 Posts
Default

My lgs has had one for a while now.
It's either 875 or 975, cant remember for sure right now.
I looked at it briefly the end of Feb.
It seemed to have some of the Mark's mentioned above.
Maybe I should take a better look also.
Uhhh- oh, time to consult the 4th, and search this forum.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-18-2020, 10:47 PM
LostintheOzone's Avatar
LostintheOzone LostintheOzone is offline
US Veteran
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: WA.
Posts: 3,000
Likes: 2,762
Liked 2,834 Times in 1,379 Posts
Default

Cabela's is generally pretty high on their used guns. I have however been able to work them down to a reasonable price on at least one S&W revolver. It may be that used gun sales are really slow right now because everyone is holding on to their money. My Cabelas has had a second model hand ejector for sale for about two years. They must be in the business of storing used revolvers.
__________________
That's just somebody talkin.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-18-2020, 11:20 PM
Flygas's Avatar
Flygas Flygas is offline
Member
Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again? Should I go back and look again?  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 23
Likes: 13
Liked 33 Times in 10 Posts
Default

Their Gun Library staff were pretty knowledgeable many years ago but things have changed dramatically. When they went public, the bean counters came in and made big changes, most notably running off all the managers who knew what they were doing. They wanted to get rid of the salaries and replace them with $10 an hour clerks. I used to drive way out of my way anytime I was even remotely near a store to see what they had. Now I often drive right by without stopping.

Your story about taping the boxes is true but I’ll tell you a story about boxes that will make some guys weep. Years ago, I bought an Adolph Niedner .25 Roberts custom Springfield from them. It had belonged to Ned Roberts himself and was the prototype for the .257 Roberts. I had known about it for awhile before it showed up in one of their stores. I finally made a deal with them and as we were wrapping everything up, I asked them to make sure I got the shipping box. I knew the original wooden shipping crate with Ned Roberts’ name and address on it had remained with the gun for all these years (about 80 years or so!) and it was a big part of the desirability of the gun. They looked at me blankly and said “oh, we don’t have that anymore. We threw it away.” I was absolutely flabbergasted! Unbelievable idiots! It’s been more than ten years and I still can’t get over it.
__________________
SWCA #3512 SWHF #691
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shield 9mm slide automatically locks back when racked back sermy01 Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols 13 05-15-2017 09:07 PM
640-1 Pro Series Back to the Mothership --- Second Time Back Edmo S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 15 04-20-2015 05:49 PM
Just got back from back East Skeet 028 Reloading 13 09-05-2013 08:04 PM
UPDATE (it's back) - Well, my 3" 624 Lew Horton is on its way back to S&W Denver Dick S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 58 10-15-2008 09:56 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:22 AM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)