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1905 Hand Ejector .32-20
Hey folks. I've had this 1905-ish hand ejector in .32-20 for some time now. SN: 156XX
and during my latest range day the trigger return spring failed. I've already checked both numrich and wolff and came up empty handed. wondering if anyone has a source on replacements.
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Try Jack First. I bought 1899 parts from him in the past.
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Welcome to the Forum. You actually have a Model 1902, 1st Change, not 1905. It should be a 4 screw, not 5 screw as there will be no screw on the bottom of the frame ahead of the trigger guard. That spring was only found on 1899, 1902, and very early 1905 revolvers. The 32-20 and 38 spring will be the same, but will be tough to find for a 115 year old gun. I would start a WTB thread for the part and see if someone on this Forum may have the part or a parts gun. Also, start watching ebay for the part.
I am thinking that it could be micro-TIG welded?? Would be worth your time discussing this with a specialty welder.
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It will be like pulling hens teeth, to find a replacement trigger return spring. However, all is not lost.
A replacement can (relatively) easily be made from a hammer or main spring. I recently described my method to one of our members, and his gun-smith followed the plan, and it came very nice.
There are two ideas here. One is that the mounting bracket on that spring is silver-soldered on, and can be removed easily, with a torch. Save it. The second idea is that a main spring, along a certain point on it curvature, is exactly the same thickness as the trigger return spring.
So, the concept is to lay the two broken pieces on a main spring, and slide them up and down until you've found the right positioning, and the cut that piece out of the main spring. Next, the mounting bracket that was salvaged from the original spring is silver soldered into the proper position, and
Lo and behold, you have a replacement trigger return spring.
The fellow I helped with this might still have the pictures I sent him, if you need further assistance.
Regards, Mike Priwer
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Originally Posted by glowe
Welcome to the Forum. You actually have a Model 1902, 1st Change, not 1905. It should be a 4 screw, not 5 screw as there will be no screw on the bottom of the frame ahead of the trigger guard. That spring was only found on 1899, 1902, and very early 1905 revolvers. The 32-20 and 38 spring will be the same, but will be tough to find for a 115 year old gun. I would start a WTB thread for the part and see if someone on this Forum may have the part or a parts gun. Also, start watching ebay for the part.
I am thinking that it could be micro-TIG welded?? Would be worth your time discussing this with a specialty welder.
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Thanks for the info. I wasn't 100% certain as to the make as the information I was able to dig up hadn't been consistent.
One of my local buddies also considered welding, but thought that doing so would ruin the temper of the steel. I'm not familiar with micro-tig welding so I'm not sure if that would work.
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Originally Posted by mikepriwer
It will be like pulling hens teeth, to find a replacement trigger return spring. However, all is not lost.
A replacement can (relatively) easily be made from a hammer or main spring. I recently described my method to one of our members, and his gun-smith followed the plan, and it came very nice.
There are two ideas here. One is that the mounting bracket on that spring is silver-soldered on, and can be removed easily, with a torch. Save it. The second idea is that a main spring, along a certain point on it curvature, is exactly the same thickness as the trigger return spring.
So, the concept is to lay the two broken pieces on a main spring, and slide them up and down until you've found the right positioning, and the cut that piece out of the main spring. Next, the mounting bracket that was salvaged from the original spring is silver soldered into the proper position, and
Lo and behold, you have a replacement trigger return spring.
The fellow I helped with this might still have the pictures I sent him, if you need further assistance.
Regards, Mike Priwer
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I had been considering sacrificing (and judging from the prices of parts lots on gunbroker, I'm leaning that way) a wolff mainspring to accomplish something very similar, so if you can find those photos that would be very helpful.
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Here is a picture of the return spring itself.
You can see the mounting piece, that is silver-soldered on. If you compare this view to the main spring itself, you'll see why the main spring is the place to start.
I'm still trying to find my other pictures. If you' like, I can recreate some pictures that will show both springs, for better visualization.
Regards, Mike Priwer
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I have ended up ordering some blue tempered spring steel to fab a replacement from. it will have to be cut to shape and then heated & bent, but it should be more than adequate for the job.
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On a related note, is there a particular model of HKS speedloader that "works" for these 1902s?
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On a related note, is there a particular model of HKS speedloader that "works" for these 1902s?
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You MIGHT be able to buy one for the K-32 (M16, M16-4) and enlarge the holes slightly. You will also have to shorten the ends of the star as well. Good luck!
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