Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-27-2020, 04:20 PM
Benton Quest Benton Quest is offline
Member
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 148
Likes: 71
Liked 187 Times in 72 Posts
Default How rare are 17-1's?

The SCSW states add an additional 25 to 50%.

Is this realistic? I have one on an auction site right now, it is not drawing a great deal on interest. Perhaps that variant is bit esoteric.

Who's to know?

Sent from my SM-T510 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-27-2020, 04:35 PM
Doc44's Avatar
Doc44 Doc44 is offline
Moderator

How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 7,650
Likes: 908
Liked 20,465 Times in 2,950 Posts
Default

The -1 model variation for all models was shipped mainly in 1962 and are somewhat scarce. Interest varies by model with the 29-1 being highly sought after, followed by the 19-1 and then the other models.

Bill
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #3  
Old 06-27-2020, 06:10 PM
JP@AK's Avatar
JP@AK JP@AK is online now
US Veteran
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 10,892
Likes: 3,558
Liked 11,086 Times in 4,334 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc44 View Post
The -1 model variation for all models was shipped mainly in 1962 and are somewhat scarce. Interest varies by model with the 29-1 being highly sought after, followed by the 19-1 and then the other models.

Bill
Not to mention the Model 28-1 Highway Patrolman. So far, we know of only ONE that exists.
__________________
Jack
SWCA #2475, SWHF #318
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 06-27-2020, 07:52 PM
22hipower 22hipower is offline
SWCA Member
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth
Posts: 1,987
Likes: 3,588
Liked 3,985 Times in 1,082 Posts
Default

I have K22 Outdoorsmans, pre-17s, a no dash, -2, -3, and -4. I've been looking a long time to find a -1 and I'm still looking. One sold on GB a few weeks ago ($1025 with box/papers) and I probably should have gone after that one. Perhaps not "rare" but there sure aren't many of them around for sale.

Jeff
SWCA #1457
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-27-2020, 08:17 PM
opoefc opoefc is online now
US Veteran
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern California, USA
Posts: 9,577
Likes: 2,405
Liked 4,882 Times in 2,133 Posts
Default

Make your own " dash 1 " Find a "No dash" that has the engineering change that required the dash 1 stamping, but didn't receive it, which is why the dash 1s are uncommon. Get out your stamps and correct the factory error ! The workers did not take the time to go find a set of stamps to add the dash 1s as they were used to just producing the No Dashes, until the foreman got on their tails. Ed.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-27-2020, 10:57 PM
JP@AK's Avatar
JP@AK JP@AK is online now
US Veteran
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 10,892
Likes: 3,558
Liked 11,086 Times in 4,334 Posts
Default

When I was building a complete set of K-38 Masterpiece revolvers (1947-1982), I was lucky enough to pick up an ANIB 14-1 early on. I got the -2 a bit later and the last one I found was the Model 14 with no dash number. I ended up with a couple extras; 4 screw with no model number, a heavy 5 screw, some -3 and -4. Some of those have since been traded off. The point being, I did not have to search long and hard for the -1. What could have been a serious challenge turned out not to be.
__________________
Jack
SWCA #2475, SWHF #318
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-28-2020, 08:03 AM
Ray Ray is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lost in South America
Posts: 510
Likes: 99
Liked 798 Times in 266 Posts
Default

Then how I know for sure my 17 # 3318XX no dash had the engineering change made and by factory error was not stamped dash 1 ?
As per Mr Jinks letter it shipped from factory in 1958.
Regards, Ray
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-28-2020, 08:05 AM
Bullet Bob's Avatar
Bullet Bob Bullet Bob is offline
US Veteran
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Western NC
Posts: 2,860
Likes: 1,784
Liked 4,133 Times in 1,230 Posts
Default

The dash 1's didn't start until 1959.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-28-2020, 08:51 AM
Benton Quest Benton Quest is offline
Member
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 148
Likes: 71
Liked 187 Times in 72 Posts
Default

The one I have is probably from 1960.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-28-2020, 09:27 AM
bullmack's Avatar
bullmack bullmack is offline
SWCA Member
How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's? How rare are 17-1's?  
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Puget Sound, Washington
Posts: 941
Likes: 161
Liked 964 Times in 271 Posts
Default

I decided to acquire 8 3/8 lengths in model 17's up through 17-4. Took me a year to find the 17-1!
__________________
Dennis
SWCA #2409, SWHF #353
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Not Kinda Rare, REALLY Rare .38 Safety Hammerless 5th Model Rick Bowles S&W Antiques 31 03-18-2020 03:23 PM
5905- rare/desirable or rare/no big deal? spistols Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 11 04-06-2015 05:22 PM
RARE Vintage Ammo in great Condition! Shotshells Silver Tip RARE CARTRIDGES! mercenetti Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 0 02-25-2015 06:42 PM
Rare condition .38-44s/Very rare ammo SRT S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 12 09-20-2014 03:35 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:20 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)