Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-29-2020, 11:07 PM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is online now
US Veteran
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 7,396
Likes: 3,852
Liked 17,043 Times in 4,908 Posts
Default I frame educattion

I picked up a small 2" barreled flat latch 22lr from a forum member sometime last year. It had almost no blue left and looked like it had been carefully sanded with very fine sand paper, Seams and screws fine, Stamping all clear and nice. It was advertised this way and I got it cheap. It was called a pre model 34 in the add and I assumed it was a J frame. LOL Anyway, I picked up a 4 inch barrel and already had what I thought was a J frame 22 cylinder with a long ejector rod. LOL

Anyway a couple week or so back I got a Mohawk 600 project done (changed out the 222 barrel for a model 700 223 barrel), so I got out the little S&W 22 and removed the barrel. New barrel screwed in a tiny bit to far, so I took it off and made a few bunch marks on the shoulder and it tightened up perfect, tapped in the pin and the fun began.

The ejector rod I had was right hand thread and the center pin a bit small. I now suspect it is not really a S&W cylinder. All my other rods were to short. Checked a few places for a rod and no luck. The I checked with a resident I and J frame expert and he told me he had one for an I and one for a J. He had me do some measurements and informed me I had an I frame gun. Now I have to go through all my little 32s and figure out which are Is and which are Js.

Anyway I got the pins to day and the longest of the 2 he sent fit perfect. I used a K frame center pin which I had to grind down on both ends to get it right.

But, now I have a little 4" I frame 22 camp gun, fun , kids can practice with gun. Probably dunk it in a blue tank this summer sometime.

The grips came on the gun, I just got rid of the finger grooves they had as they were to small form my mitts.


Last edited by steelslaver; 07-29-2020 at 11:36 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 07-29-2020, 11:54 PM
Hondo44 Hondo44 is online now
SWCA Member
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 15,902
Likes: 7,284
Liked 14,901 Times in 6,275 Posts
Default

Bravo!

I have 2"ers and 4"ers. One Model 1953 I frame like yours was reblued, nice job but not factory so when I saw a 3 1/2" Airweight barrel (they're not marked Airweight) for sale, I grabbed it. Just to have something different and put it in my I frame.

I had a pre war style barrel knob ext rod from early post war with left hand threads so I notched the 3 1/2" barrel and installed the rod too.

It's my favorite .22 shooter.

__________________
Jim
S&WCA #819
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 07-30-2020, 07:48 AM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is online now
US Veteran
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 7,396
Likes: 3,852
Liked 17,043 Times in 4,908 Posts
Default

They are neat little guns. I remember years ago when I bought my first model 36-1 I could have gotten a J frame 22 for the same money and didn't even contemplate it. Dumb kid. Now dumb adult. LOL.

I have several I and J frame 32 S&W longs. I need to get them all out and do some comparisons. Need to be able to tell Is from Js. Great little guns. My wife carry's one loaded with 90gr semi wad cutters on her morning walks. I got her a J frame 642-1, but she don't like it as well, even with regular 38 specials. She does keep a model 15 on her side of the bed.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 07-30-2020, 09:05 AM
Green Frog Green Frog is offline
Member
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Central VA
Posts: 5,960
Likes: 770
Liked 5,108 Times in 2,425 Posts
Default

Unless I am worried about changing or replacing some few of the parts, I consider my Is and Js to be the same except for the earlier I frames with leaf type mainsprings... these I regard as having superior trigger pulls, but maybe that’s just me. Otherwise, I think of my little Smiths as... little Smiths!

Spring style notwithstanding, that little kit gun you’ve assembled looks like a dandy, and would be ideal for woods loafing, running a trap line, or just popping targets of opportunity in range or field. Looks like you have a winner!

Froggie
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 07-30-2020, 10:18 AM
jcelect jcelect is offline
Member
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Monroeville, Ohio,USA
Posts: 1,793
Likes: 419
Liked 2,547 Times in 701 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by steelslaver View Post
Dumb kid. Now dumb adult. LOL.
But, your getting smarter every day that you keep at it! Compare cylinder lengths! ? !
jcelect
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-30-2020, 11:55 AM
two-bit cowboy's Avatar
two-bit cowboy two-bit cowboy is offline
US Veteran
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: the hills of ol' Wyo
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 9,210
Liked 9,133 Times in 2,658 Posts
Default

Great stuff.

My remaining I-frames are .32s, from '29 through '58.

Lots of fun.
Attached Thumbnails
I frame educattion-32-he-ca-nov-29-2-jpg   I frame educattion-model-31-tt-th-jpg  
__________________
Keeper of homeless Chiefs
Bob

Last edited by two-bit cowboy; 08-02-2020 at 06:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-30-2020, 12:47 PM
steelslaver's Avatar
steelslaver steelslaver is online now
US Veteran
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 7,396
Likes: 3,852
Liked 17,043 Times in 4,908 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jcelect View Post
But, your getting smarter every day that you keep at it! Compare cylinder lengths! ? !
jcelect
Ya, Hondo informed me that is the best indicator. Just looking at them it is a bit hard to tell especially if you don't have one of each in hand.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-01-2020, 05:07 PM
Hondo44 Hondo44 is online now
SWCA Member
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 15,902
Likes: 7,284
Liked 14,901 Times in 6,275 Posts
Default

These photos compare a .22/32 Kit Gun "J-Frame" (Model 63 stainless Kit Gun, top), and a Model of 1953 "New I-Frame" (Pre-Model 34/Model 34 22/32 Kit Gun, bottom).

Same size trigger guards and grip frames, but note the 1/8 difference in frame length in front of the trigger guard, also compare the cylinder length and cyl window length. The simple identification "giveaway" of the I frame pre and post 1953 is the cyl square profile from the side view.


Photo credit: JP@AK

Blurry
Photo credit: BlackAgnes
__________________
Jim
S&WCA #819
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 08-01-2020, 07:41 PM
H Richard's Avatar
H Richard H Richard is offline
US Veteran
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Central IL
Posts: 20,194
Likes: 12,779
Liked 16,551 Times in 6,485 Posts
Default

Don't you just love those itty bitty I Frames? This one is a 2", transition.


I've also got a Pre 30, 3 1/4", and a Pre 30 2", and a 30-1 3". Kind of like the .32 caliber, so I also added a couple 431PD and 432PD as well as a 16-4 in 32 H&R.
__________________
H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #10  
Old 08-01-2020, 08:36 PM
delcrossv's Avatar
delcrossv delcrossv is offline
SWCA Member
I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion I frame educattion  
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 2,734
Likes: 4,767
Liked 6,462 Times in 1,708 Posts
Default

My "late" I frame in 38 S&W. Pre Mod. 33.

$200 for the gun, $60 for a replacement hammer (it had been bobbed). 10 min. to drop it in.

Before:


After:


Aside from a HFT, my only I frame 22 is a Pre 35. It's late enough the bug screw is gone:
__________________
SWCA #3356, SWHF#611

Last edited by delcrossv; 08-01-2020 at 08:48 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
***SPF*** N-frame Tyler-T; K-frame rear sight; N-frame parts Oregon45 Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 2 07-17-2016 09:33 AM
WTB N frame S&W (frame or frame/cylinder if possible) FTF NOLA area Cpt. Obvious WANTED to Buy 1 06-25-2012 06:39 PM
WTS L FRAME COMBAT,K FRAME RB MAGNA,J FRAME PEARL GRIPS twomoons Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 6 01-29-2011 10:49 PM
WTS...N-Frame Combats...L-Frame speedloaders...J-Frame holster...REDUCED BigBoreShooter Accessories/Misc - For Sale or Trade 6 03-20-2009 01:51 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:28 PM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)