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Old 11-07-2020, 04:51 PM
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Add 18-1/2% to theses hammer prices.....I found it interesting, and wish I could have participated in a few of these.

Most of the guns sold at this recent auction fall into the 1896 to 1961 time frame.

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Wow a "U.S. PROPERTY GHD" marked Victory went for $1100.........plus an additional 18.5% buyers's premium (3% cash discount), shipping and handling charges, transfer costs, and possibly 7.75% tax and registration fees for California residents!

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While it is an SV prefix with sliding bar hammer block safety it still seems way high even if in great condition. Also there was no mention as to if the stocks are even serial number matching! And another thing, this item does not scream unfired to me. If you look carefully there is wear evident with an example that has seen some use, albeit it isn't overly worn. To me it looks as though the sideplate has also been removed and the extractor push rod shows to have been used a bit.

Maybe I should go check on my Victory examples to be sure none have wandered off while I wasn't looking............

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You missed an interesting one on Carol's auction, it did not say "smith" in the title. Take a look at the inaccurate description plus over-exposed images and decide if the price was good or not?

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This one is not an S&W but interesting all the same to most gun guys. LINK - Civilian Marksmanship Program - Promoting firearms safety training!

It went off last evening on the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) Auction of M1911's & M1911A1's. I was kind of stunned at the final bid price of over 7 grand. The frame and slide are both Colt but not matching. The condition is listed as 99%, but I would consider it closer to 90%. Then again is the non-matching issue.

I won a Colt M1911A1 back in March at a CMP Auction for just under 2 grand. It is of 1945 vintage and in better condition to my thinking. Although, the above one of 1936 vintage must have a heck of a vintage advantage. Below is a picture of mine.
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I was at that auction. There was a five screw pre-29 that went for like $1300! (Somebody scored) And it was in really nice shape but missing the Coke grips.
I was in a bidding war for a nickel plated model 40. It went up to $1200 and I had to let it pass.
However, I wound up scoring a BNIB Pre-Model 30, 32 Hand Ejector for $475 plus fees. So happy with it.

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Here's my nicest "U.S. PROPERTY G.H.D." Victory. It was used very very little. It came to me with the dried preservative freckling shown in the seller's pics which cleaned right up with a fresh cleaning. Stocks are s/n matching and still in beautiful condition.

Is it $1300'ish minty................sincerely doubtful.

Well maybe in California.
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I was at that auction. There was a five screw pre-29 that went for like $1300! (Somebody scored) And it was in really nice shape but missing the Coke grips.
I was in a bidding war for a nickel plated model 40. It went up to $1200 and I had to let it pass.
However, I wound up scoring a BNIB Pre-Model 30, 32 Hand Ejector for $475 plus fees. So happy with it.

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This one is not an S&W but interesting all the same to most gun guys. LINK - Civilian Marksmanship Program - Promoting firearms safety training!

It went off last evening on the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) Auction of M1911's & M1911A1's. I was kind of stunned at the final bid price of over 7 grand. The frame and slide are both Colt but not matching. The condition is listed as 99%, but I would consider it closer to 90%. Then again is the non-matching issue.

I won a Colt M1911A1 back in March at a CMP Auction for just under 2 grand. It is of 1945 vintage and in better condition to my thinking. Although, the above one of 1936 vintage must have a heck of a vintage advantage. Below is a picture of mine.
Seems someone over paid. A 1937 all original Colt 1911A1 should not have a stamped trigger. That was developed by Ithaca and not adopted by others until 1944. It should have a milled trigger. Also until 1944 all colt slides had the serial number stamped under the firing pin stop. It should match the number on the frame.
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The OP auction Victory - $1100 PLUS 18 1/2%?

Not for me. Lightly fired , yes. Unfired - No.
Top and forward side plate screws look like the finish was marred while tightening.

The grain of the grips is not familiar to me - someone more knowledgable please comment on that.(the grips , not me...)
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The OP auction Victory - $1100 PLUS 18 1/2%?

Not for me. Lightly fired , yes. Unfired - No.
Top and forward side plate screws look like the finish was marred while tightening.

The grain of the grips is not familiar to me - someone more knowledgable please comment on that.(the grips , not me...)
Yeah they appear a bit off to me too, especially the left side stock, but with so many examples being built for the war effort it's hard to tell what they might have decided to use. (They also looked a tiny bit proud of the grip frame to me in places, hence my curiosity as to their originality at the price it sold for. Unfortunately the left side stocks were not serialized by the factory, as just the right side stocks were stamped.)

Here's a U.S. Navy marked Victory example of mine with very nice stocks that are serial number matching to the revolver. Look at how they precisely they fit with no proudness or gaps with regards to the frame.

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That Pre mod 30 was a steal!!!
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You missed an interesting one on Carol's auction, it did not say "smith" in the title. Take a look at the inaccurate description plus over-exposed images and decide if the price was good or not?

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That was likely a good buy for a M&P 38 target. Stocks may have kept the price down as did the description.
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That was likely a good buy for a M&P 38 target. Stocks may have kept the price down as did the description.
Well Robert, I bought that one. The error in the title description and overexposed photos, plus the ugly rubber grips definitely kept the price down. The pre-war description turned out to be pre-WWI, not II. There are a couple sets of nice gold medallion stocks in my parts drawers that will quickly be added when I get the revolver. This turned out to be a shipped in 1911, making it a 3rd Change, not a "K-38 Target Double Action Revolver" I believe the finish to be better than the flood light images when in the hand. Also, if a 6 1/2" barrel length, it would be very uncommon since a 3rd Change should only have a 4" or 6" barrel. 2nd Change revolvers did offer a 6 1/2" barrel and there were probably some left when the change was made, hence the longer barrel on this one.

Will share when I get the gun and am happy to pick up such an early 38 M&P Target gun!!

BTW, Carol Watson offers a 15.5% buyers fee with check or cash onsite payment. The 18.5% is for credit card.
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Add about 8 1/2 % sales tax to that 18.5 % proxibid fee, unless you are a dealer with a resale license. Ed
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Ed, no sales tax collected for out-of-state buyers.
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