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Smooth Target vs Presentation Stocks
I hope this is in the right section; if not, please move. First off, this is just my OPINION, and others may think differently. Looking at my pictures here, I see these types of stocks referred to as 'Presentation Stocks' even though they are obviously different.
The ones on the left are the ones I think are called Smooth Targets, and the factory letters refer to them as such. The ones on the right are ones that I call Presentation Stocks. Notice the ones on the right have a cut out on the top of the right stock so you can see more of the side plate on the revolver. I constantly see members here refer to the ones on the left as Presentation Stocks/Grips.
Any one else have different opinions?
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I probably have referred to the ones on the left as Presentation Stocks or Smooth Football Targets. I would have called the ones on the right Commemorative Stocks. There is an excellent "Notable Thread" that describes the stocks S&W offered over the years. If I really wanted to be "correct", I would reference that thread and use the author's terminology.
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The stocks on the left are smooth target stocks and often came with engraved revolvers. The stocks on the right were used on commemorative or anniversary revolvers so the special logo or emblem on the side plate could be seen, but are also smooth target stocks. The term "presentation stocks" is one coined by collectors.
S&W's official description of these stocks is...Target stocks, plain, made of selected woods or American walnut.
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What about the ones with a blind screw hole where the screw doesn't go thru the left grip, I would call these true presentation stocks................................M*
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I dont know,,,but, they sure feel nice in hand!
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Mblhopo...I know the type of stocks you are referring to, but was unaware S&W ever made any.
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I hope this is in the right section; if not, please move. ...
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John:
As always, Bill has provided us with great information. As to the era of the stocks in your post, the escutchens on them would indicate they are from the 1970's or early 1980s, as the earlier (5-screw and 4-screw era) grips had the flush mount, deep "cup" escutchens. You'll notice on your grips the escutchens are recessed into the wood about 1/16th - 1/8th of an inch. Note the difference with these mid-1960's smooth target grips...
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Mblhopo...I know the type of stocks you are referring to, but was unaware S&W ever made any.
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Bill.....You may be right because the ones I have are Colt grips, I have one set of Ivory grips for a SAA with the blind screw hole............................M*
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I have a set on my Model 48-4 that have the speedloader cut outs on both sides
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I have a set on my Model 48-4 that have the football cutout on the left and the similar cutout on the right. I call 'em double footballs :-)
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I thought that type was called speed loader cut out for the left grip. but don't know about the right grip............................M*
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I have a set on my Model 48-4 that have the football cutout on the left and the similar cutout on the right. I call 'em double footballs :-)
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I have a set on my Model 48-4 that have the football cutout on the left and the similar cutout on the right. I call 'em double footballs :-)
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Uh-oh...they haven’t the football nor at right neither on the left.....
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I believe those are football
And those are not
I also have a pair of what I call presentation grips with a relief cut on both sides
I was under the I pression that this was on more recent grips (well late 80ies / early 90ies)
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I corrected my earlier description. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote football cutouts.
Possibly S&W made them with the cut outs on both sides because they were getting schizophrenic regarding which side to stamp the S&W logo on and this type would not obscure the logo no matter which side it was on ?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Rego
I corrected my earlier description. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote football cutouts.
Possibly S&W made them with the cut outs on both sides because they were getting schizophrenic regarding which side to stamp the S&W logo on and this type would not obscure the logo no matter which side it was on ?
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They were cut on the right sides to show whatever was engraved on the side plate. In my case, it's the S&W 125th anniversary logo.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Rego
I corrected my earlier description. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote football cutouts.
Possibly S&W made them with the cut outs on both sides because they were getting schizophrenic regarding which side to stamp the S&W logo on and this type would not obscure the logo no matter which side it was on ?
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They were cut on the right sides to show whatever was engraved on the side plate. In my case, it's the S&W 125th anniversary logo.
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There still may be some merit to the diagnosis of corporate schizophrenia.
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