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First I just want to say this is an awesome forum!

I just came into the below revolvers and was wondering the date as well as estimated value (I plan on keeping them as I really like them but am curious).

The first is a 38s Serial C127XX (there is no model on this one, but it is in a gold box)
The second is a Model 34-1 serial M545XX
The third is a Model 36 serial 43JX

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The first one is an early post-WW2 gun, probably 1948. You can remove the grips, to see if they are numbered to the butt serial number. By 1957, when model numbers were assigned, the gun became a model 10. You can also check the bottom of the box, to see if it is numbered to the butt serial number. It ought to be a 400 to 500 gun, at least. If the box and grips are original to the gun, then it's worth more. The front sight blade looks like it has a dot of something white, which would not be original to the gun,

I don't have any knowledge about the second gun, except to note that it looks all original, and very nice. The third one looks like it went through a fire, or some other disaster.

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Welcome to the S&W Forum.

I agree with Mike's comments on these revolvers, with the exception of his date for the .38 M&P. I believe it is a bit later than 1948. The C127xxx serial range makes shipment likely to have been in 1950. I show one 2" square butt at C127431 that shipped in September, 1950. I show others in the C123xxx, C124xxx, C127xxx and C131xxx ranges that also shipped in the summer of 1950.

The Kit Gun likely shipped in 1972 or thereabouts.

The damaged Chiefs Special is probably from 1972 or 1973.
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The 34-1 is probably from 1973. These little guns are favorites and prices have risen quite a bit in recent years. Without box/papers probably about $700 where I shop. The third one is a disaster, the rust looks really deep, someone might pay $200 for it for parts depending how bad the internals are. Without the rust maybe $400-$500. Welcome to the Forum.

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Awesome! Thank you all for your replies. I have never really been a revolver guy, but they are growing on me. Going to give them a good cleaning and then take them to the range.
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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! I believe the M&P dates to 1948. Jack it is a 5 digit number after the C, not six, unless Marine1 miss typed the serial.
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Nope it is a 5 digit
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1948 5 digit serial.

Value on burned gun is zero. Geez, it burned through the cylinder.
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Welcome to the Forum and Semper Fi.

The M36 hasn't been burned. The entire gun would look a lot worse.The cylinder is extremely rusted and may even have a hole in it, but a closer examination is called for.

The frame and other parts can be cleaned and the cylinder replaced for a decent truck gun.
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I believe the M&P dates to 1948. Jack it is a 5 digit number after the C, not six
Yep! My apologies. Read it wrong. Old eyes.

C numbers went from C1 to about C40000 in 1948. Mike was correct; I was wrong.
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Thanks again for all the replies. I don't think the 36 was burned, just neglected has been sitting in a work truck I believe for about 7 years. The Owner passed away 3 years ago, so I know they have not been touched since then. It still cycles and is still a smooth pull. That one is going to be a project for my step-son and I. We are going to restore it together. Ill post pictures of the before and after.

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I don't think the 36 was burned, just neglected has been sitting in a work truck I believe for about 7 years.
I was going to guess the trunk of a car. I've seen similar rust from that storage method. Definitely not fire damage. Fire damage looks much different.
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I was going to guess the trunk of a car. I've seen similar rust from that storage method. Definitely not fire damage. Fire damage looks much different.

Yup, sure does. I once bought a 3" M36 that went through a fire. It was covered in baked creosote. I replaced the springs and took it to the company that just so happened to do the heat treatment for the S&W produced Walther PPK/s pistols. I saw a bunch of frames and slides there. It was located in the city where I was a police officer. The Rockwell hardness was fine, so I cleaned it up and carried it as a back-up for several years.
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