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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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Have a pre-model 10, serial number 4676xx. Would like to know what year it was made what type/color/constuction was the box that it came in.
Has neither suffix nor prefix. Just six digits.

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Does it have a letter prefix, like "V", "C" or "D"? Without any prefix, it would be a pre WW II Military & Police and would NOT be a pre Model 10.
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Just six digits.

Can you post a picture, especially the right side? Does it have the "MADE IN U.S.A." on it?
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I believe the MADE IN USA started in the very low 400-range, in mid-1922. So I would expect a 467-range gun to have that, and likely be a later 1923 or early 1924 vintage.
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Your revolver almost certainly shipped before 1925. I have kept records on K frame boxes and put together a short study a few years ago on how to age these boxes. Best estimates of style changes are the two photos I am attaching below. This information was obtained from many examples that show up for sale and on this Forum. The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 4th Edition has similar information, but in a slightly more generalized fashion.

One has to realize that there would have been a transition period on both ends of a particular style production, since leftover boxes were certainly used until gone along side of the newer designs. Early labels used a color coded label for different barrel lengths, finished, and/or calibers, but I believe by the 1920s that practice was mostly gone.

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There were two different inner labels for the first style box. One ran from 1899 to 1902 and carried a inner lid label for the First Model. The second style label contained instructions for opening a revolver using the thumb latch. The black box was used until around 1925 and contained a dual language instruction label.

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This was often called the patent or clamshell box. It was the first box to have a patent date printed on the inner label, December 28, 1920. The box did not show up on K frames until the mid-1920s, with the earliest box I have found having been shipped in 1925.
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I believe the MADE IN USA started in the very low 400-range, in mid-1922. So I would expect a 467-range gun to have that, and likely be a later 1923 or early 1924 vintage.
I was pretty sure the OP's serial number was in the 1920s, but I don't keep track of the .38 M&Ps, so could make a more accurate SWAG.
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