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Old 03-26-2021, 06:57 PM
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Hey everyone. Iím kinda new to the forum but hereís my pride and joy revolver itís a 455 triple lock. It came with no side plate screw but much thanks to a forum member [mention]Muley Gil [/mention] he was able to send me one to complete the gun. I was also missing a part within the ejector rod housing that held the rod in place ( a small lock washer) but I was able to source one and now I have a perfectly functioning triple lock. I have always wanted one and here she is. All matching numbers btw. Sheís seen some stuff, front sights been ramped and finish is pretty worn but thatís what makes it more appealing to me. And it was a really good price too so I couldnít pass it up. Any further info on these 455 triple locks would be awesome too like who they were issued to and such. Thanks for looking everyone, hope you enjoy.





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Welcome. There's a lot of us triple lock fans here! Fine looking old gun, now fully complete and together. Has she been modified or another caliber 45 colt or 45acp, or are you shooting 455's?
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Old 03-26-2021, 08:02 PM
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Welcome. There's a lot of us triple lock fans here! Fine looking old gun, now fully complete and together. Has she been modified or another caliber 45 colt or 45acp, or are you shooting 455's?

Thank you very much! Ya Iím glad itís all back together and itís still .455. Iíve shot it! Shoots good!


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British Officers were not "issued" their side arms but rather had to purchase them.

As far as I know there is no way to track just who bought what, unless you are lucky and got one that the officer was proud enough of to engrave his name on it......
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The Enfield acceptance stamps and proof show that it was accepted into military service, it was not an officer’s private purchase to begin with.

If it wasn‘t sold out of stores and has an officer’s name engraved somewhere, as on Dean’s example, it was issued to a unit, not an identifiable individual.

Many units during WW I still marked their guns on the backstrap, but not all, so in the absence of such a marking, it‘s not likely you‘ll find more details about its service.
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Nice triple lock!

Would you care to share the serial# for this study and database?

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You can go to post #223 for the latest database info, page 5 to get an idea of when yours likely shipped.
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Would you care to share the serial# for this study and database?

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You can go to post #223 for the latest database info, page 5 to get an idea of when yours likely shipped.

Thank you! I believe itís serial number 12496. Iíll attach a photo. The number appears on back of the cylinder, and on the barrel in the ejector rod cutout. If you can tel me more about that would be great. Iíve sent off for a smith and Wesson historic letter on it.


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Thank you. Yes #12496. It's a 4th variation British Svc Revolver in the database I sent. And since it has British military marks, see the final quote below:


4. ď.44 HE - 1st ModelĒ, ĎTriple Lockí, same as #1. above, but not likely converted .44s, just assembled into .455s:

ďAs the Brit contracts were finishing up in April, 1916, [H of S&W pg. 203] S&W found enough [HE 1st Model TL frames, possibly already numbered as .44s, and .455 barrels and cyls] to build 691 .44 HE 1st Model [per Roy Jinks in various letters] Triple Lock frames [for chambering in .455* like #1. above]. These guns are numbered in the .44 Spl serial number series. I have no idea why they were not just numbered in the .455 series. Perhaps it was .455 barrels and cylinders that the factory found, and they simply turned again to existing 44 HE 1st Model TL frames to use them up. They were sold commercially.Ē Lee Jarrett

11/3/15 ďIn April, 1916, the Factory found enough parts to assemble 691 Triple Lock 455s. They were assembled from April to Oct of 1916. They were numbered [late] in the 44 HE series. All I have seen are numbered from the 12,000 to 14,000's. [in 1916 and 1917 - 325 were sold to Shapleigh Hardware Co. and some to Simmons Hardware Co., St. Louis, MO.]
Some letter as being commercial sales, but I have long suspected that S&W simply slid many into the last of the British shipments at the standard price for the 455-2nd Models. I say that because I have observed several now with Brit ordnance marks and/or commercial proofs.Ē Lee Jarrett
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Thank you. Yes #12496. It's a 4th variation British Svc Revolver in the database I sent. And since it has British military marks, see the final quote below:


4. ď.44 HE - 1st ModelĒ, ĎTriple Lockí, same as #1. above, but not likely converted .44s, just assembled into .455s:

ďAs the Brit contracts were finishing up in April, 1916, [H of S&W pg. 203] S&W found enough [HE 1st Model TL frames, possibly already numbered as .44s, and .455 barrels and cyls] to build 691 .44 HE 1st Model [per Roy Jinks in various letters] Triple Lock frames [for chambering in .455* like #1. above]. These guns are numbered in the .44 Spl serial number series. I have no idea why they were not just numbered in the .455 series. Perhaps it was .455 barrels and cylinders that the factory found, and they simply turned again to existing 44 HE 1st Model TL frames to use them up. They were sold commercially.Ē Lee Jarrett

11/3/15 ďIn April, 1916, the Factory found enough parts to assemble 691 Triple Lock 455s. They were assembled from April to Oct of 1916. They were numbered [late] in the 44 HE series. All I have seen are numbered from the 12,000 to 14,000's. [in 1916 and 1917 - 325 were sold to Shapleigh Hardware Co. and some to Simmons Hardware Co., St. Louis, MO.]
Some letter as being commercial sales, but I have long suspected that S&W simply slid many into the last of the British shipments at the standard price for the 455-2nd Models. I say that because I have observed several now with Brit ordnance marks and/or commercial proofs.Ē Lee Jarrett

Wow thank you! Thatís awesome, this guns staying apart of the collection for a long time


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It's always nice to see an old warhorse restored to serviceable condition. Well done! Here's my stateside Shapleigh Hardware .455, serial 12742, slathered in nickel (before it came to me), wearing Patrick Grashorn stocks and service stocks cleaned and repaired by DWFan. Original .455 chambering, it's not been modified for .45 Colt or .45 ACP.

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Hey everyone I want to add that I got the Smith and Wesson letter today. Iíll post a photo but it wasnít shipped to simmons or shapleigh hardware like previous suggestions. Some company called Bigelow and Co in London England. One of 300 guns. If anyone knows the history of this company please post here. Iíd love to know!


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There's something wrong with the serial #:

The gun is clearly stamped 12496 but the letter indicates # 12996. The letter must have a typo or the number you sent was wrong/misread by the historian. If you call, the letter will be corrected.
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There's something wrong with the serial #:

The gun is clearly stamped 12496 but the letter indicates # 12996. The letter must have a typo or the number you sent was wrong/misread by the historian. If you call, the letter will be corrected.

Oh ya I didnít even notice that haha thank you Iím gonna call and straighten it out


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