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Been looking at possibly purchasing this Non-RM

I will be putting my hands on it sometime this week at some point.

Not sure if the stocks are Roper??

Here are few photos I have

Have not gotten an asking price but was curious what you folks think might be fair......just in case the seller asks me to make him an offer??









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Is it lettered?
Make sure you measure the barrel.
Nice looking gun. Definitely used but cared for. HBH.
Nice, but non-original stocks that aren't as valuable as Ropers.

There are only about 1/4 as many Non Regs as there are Regs.
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It's a nice example, perfect for putting a few rounds downrange and not worrying about putting wear on a 98% gun.

No idea on a value, but the RM (or pre-war .357) folk will be along shortly.
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Make sure you measure the barrel.
Nice looking gun. Definitely used but cared for. HBH.
Nice, but non-original stocks that aren't as valuable as Ropers.

There are only about 1/4 as many Non Regs as there are Regs.
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It's a nice example, perfect for putting a few rounds downrange and not worrying about putting wear on a 98% gun.

No idea on a value, but the RM (or pre-war .357) folk will be along shortly.
Would be nice to own if I can work it out.....

Doing a bit of research I am finding several auctions that have ended and I would think based on those sales that this is a $3,500 most likely more if put up on an auction.
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Looks to me to be in better condition than the photos show. A good cleaning and some RenWax would do wonders (I'd have a lot of fun cleaning it and playing musical grips, as I have never been a big Sanderson grip fan). The McGivern front sight and the HBH are nice touches. As to a price, I have not been in the pre-war .357 market lately and I'm a sucker for long-tube .357 Magnums, so for $3.5K, I'd probably be all over that one.

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Tha catalog states only 3 non-registered magnums were made with 8-3/4” barrels…..hoping this is one of them!!
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A factory re-nickeled (in 1977) 5” NRM with later stocks just sold for $4150 if that helps out at all.
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Beautiful revolver. The Sandersonís with the thumb rest look the part with that long tube. I certainly agree with RK, that will clean up very nicely.
I donít have a real idea what a fair asking price would be because I donít get to play in this end of the pool. The gentlemen here will nail it down I am sure.
Good luck Mr. Graham, hope the barrel measures out for you, looking forward to seeing it shined up.
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I saw that one.....nice looking gun!
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Beautiful revolver. The Sandersonís with the thumb rest look the part with that long tube. I certainly agree with RK, that will clean up very nicely.
I donít have a real idea what a fair asking price would be because I donít get to play in this end of the pool. The gentlemen here will nail it down I am sure.
Good luck Mr. Graham, hope the barrel measures out for you, looking forward to seeing it shined up.
Thank you, and I am looking forward to having it in my hands and checking it out later today.

I think you are right, a bit of loving care and it should clean up very nicely.

I may try to find a correct set of stocks for it......but then again as you say the target stocks are fitting for the barrel length, although a set of Roper's would be stunning on this one!
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Looks very nice to me; the Sanderson's too. I'd be surprised if you can get it for $3,500 but from what I can see I'd pay that and not think about it long either. I traded for a 6.5 inch non-reg in not as good condition, with King sights and HBH, and rough condition box a couple years ago for about $4k worth of S&Ws. I doubt that values have dropped much and I've seen a couple of re-finished non-reg guns since then with asking prices above $5k. If your hands-on review shows it to be original finish and solid mechanically I'd think $4k-$5k would not be unreasonable. We're eager to hear what happens.

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I wouldn’t hesitate to pay $3500 for this one, either.
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I think Jeff's assessment of between $4000 or $5000 is spot on...perhaps more to the upper side. It would bring that here. I saw two lesser RM's sell locally last month for $4500 each. Good luck Tom!

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I would sure check the timing, B/C gap and endshake before making a purchase. I don't like the looks of that turn line, especially for a gun that was originally fitted and assembled by S&W's top workers. It looks like two separate drag lines to me, not a good sign.

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I would sure check the timing, B/C gap and endshake before making a purchase. I don't like the looks of that turn line, especially for a gun that was originally fitted and assembled by S&W's top workers. It looks like two separate drag lines to me, not a good sign.
Can you explain further to a noob please? What part of the gun are you referring to? I joined this forum a while back because I lucked onto a pristine 67-1 a while back.

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VERY common in Pre-War long action guns, both K and N frame.
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Well, it's official, the Non-Registered Magnum came home with me today.....just could NOT pass on this one!!

Roy Jinks was kind enough to confirm that the gun shipped as part of a two gun order, both were non-registered magnums with custom ordered 8-3/4" barrels. They left the factory in December of 1939.

As for the mechanics.....the timing is PERFECT on each chamber and the end-shake is very minimal. No issues that I can see whatsoever.

The Sanderson stocks are AMAZING and they feel so darn good in hand....I absolutely love the feel & fit!!

Got her cleaned up and put a bit of shine on her so here are some fresh photos for you to enjoy.....I feel very fortunate that this one came my way.











































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Congratulations! Great looking NRM with a special order barrel length no less. Definitely a nice find!
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That is one fine looking revolver! Well done, Tom!
Thank you sir, it's amazing what a good cleaning and a little polishing can do!!

I feel very fortunate to have had this one come along......always wanted an RM but this beauty just about curbs that craving!!!
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Great addition to your collection!!

Thanks for sharing,
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That is a great beauty and we thank you for sharing additional photos. Also, there is a beguiling excellence in those Sanderson grips; thank you for sharing photo details of those.

Naturally, should you decide to shoot it, we would be eager to see and hear of a range report!
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A fella would be splitting hairs arguing for Ropers against those Sandersons. Looks like the old gun is quite the gem and congratulations on the acquisition.
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Donít you just love it when everything goes according to plan.
That cleaned up great! Congratulations on a very rare configuration. Thatís just too cool.
So how many were made with that barrel length and how many still exist?
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That cleaned up great! Congratulations on a very rare configuration. Thatís just too cool.
So how many were made with that barrel length and how many still exist?
The 4th S&W Catalog (Page 155) mentions only 3 Non-Registered Magnums are known with the 8-3/4" Barrel length and one of those is a nickel gun.

Roy tells mine is one of two that shipped out on an special order with that barrel, both of those were blue finish.

I would imagine there is a few more floating around, but who can be sure.
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My guess is that this NRM was fitted originally with standard checkered walnut stocks, not the magna style based on the screw in this photo being a rounded head instead of a flat head that you normally see when magna or target stocks are installed....maybe someone can clarify?

I want to find a decent set of silver medallions to have for it, although the Sanderon's will be what it will wear most of the time.

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Tom,
You are mistaken. S&W did not use the flat head screw before the War. Matter of fact, Post-War Transition guns also have the domed screw.
Magnas used with a domed screw have a dimple that fits over the screw.


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Thank you Lee for the education, much appreciated!
Will be on the hunt for Magna style stocks.
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Gorgeous find, congrats.
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I dropped of the letter request to Roy at the PO this morning......looks like 16-20 weeks and should have a letter in hand.

Pretty much know it is correct.......but really curious where it shipped to!

Now if I can just find the other 8-3/4" NRM that shipped with this one!!!

Stay tuned.....
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Nice gun Tom, glad itís in your safe. The pictures show a nice piece, good luck finding the magnas. Larry
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Thank you Larry,

I have a lead on a set of correct pre-war magna stocks.

But the better news is that a fellow member has offered me his correct two-piece .357 Magnum box which is a bigger deal than finding the stocks by far!!

Now to slowly gather up the tools and paperwork that would have been in the box with the gun.

The hunt continues!!
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Now to slowly gather up the tools and paperwork that would have been in the box with the gun.

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They do look beautiful with the boxes, even boxes that have seen some wear, like this 8 3/8" Non RM...





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