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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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I'm offered yet another .22 revolver as if I didn't already have several...But what I don't have is a Model 17 no dash, 4 screw, bright blue, 6", no box, maybe 95% condition with target hammer but narrow serrated trigger and no trigger stop...Flat bottom diamond Magnas may be original...S/N indicates 1960 production which is why I chose this forum...It would fill a shallow hole in my pile-o-guns, and it was offered at $1100...I'm probably a fool to even consider it, but I thought I'd look for dissenting as well as approving opinions here......Ben
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That would fit perfectly in my little 4 screw collection,but I haven’t a clue on current values
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Sounds about $200 too high to me but they don't turn up all that often where I shop. Your benjamins will be worth less by year end, the gun perhaps more. And you get the entertainment benefit of owning it. Easy for me to say, I paid $500 for my no dash 17. . . . .but ten years ago. Good luck.

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If it's for owning, loving and collecting and rarely shooting, maybe not a bad buy if you like it.

If it's for shooting... I would probably pass on it. I wouldn't buy a 95% gun of that vintage now for shooting in a condition that high. Further, I would fully expect fired brass to stick in those chambers and fight ejection.

But for the collection? Probably a nice addition.
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If it were me and I had the money on hand I would scoop that without a bat of the eye. In my neck of the woods that would be 1500.00 all day. The nice ones hardly show their faces and when they do it's not for long.
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You had better but it, probably won’t get another chance at that price.
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That's not at all out of line for the prices I've been tracking for pre-17s. Especially considering condition and extras!
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I listed a 4 screw pre 17 twice on here in 98% condition with diamond targets for 850 shipped with no takers.

I would keep looking. You can find one with the box in better condition at a show
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Sounds a tad bit high... but here's the deal, you may and may not find another one at a lower price, and this is a potential "bird in hand" situation.

You mentioned that it would fit into the "pile-o-guns" you have... because of that, you need to consider what the dollar cost average would be in adding it to you collection, odds are it's less than the purchase price.

Consider this....

Like investing in a stock of a given company over time, you buy some shares when the market and the price of the share price is up, you buy some when the market and the price is down.

Add up the cost for the total number of share you own, add up the total cost you paid for all of those shares, divide the total amount paid by the number of shares owned, and you get the average cost per share... usually it works out to be lower that the highest cost share. And let's say the average cost per share calculation comes out at being $10.00 a share, and now you decide to one share at a current market price of $20.00... you just doubled your money.


Same concept works for gun accumulating or anything else for that matter, for anything that you buy multiples of over a period of time... knives, coins, etc.

Years ago, I came across a S&W 1076 being offered up at what I thought was on the high side. When I went through the calculations above, to see what it's cost average would be by adding it my S&W herd, that figure was lower than the asking price, so I bought it. Also considered, was infrequency of 1076's coming up for sale where I'm at.

Fast forward a few years, and now the selling prices for 1076's have gone way up... and now it looks like I got a real bargain on it.

At any rate... I stopped sweating the initial cost of a firearm, as long as it isn't absurdly over priced, because of the dollar cost averaging valuation method I described above.

Some food for thought and a different perspective to consider.... but I'd go get it.
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I can’t comment on value/price. You’ll have to judge value, to you, but I can tell you I have a similar vintage K22 and, for unknown reasons, for years, when I was shooting .22s a lot, it was my favorite of the four K22s I owned. It was probably no more accurate than any of the others. I guess it just gave off good vibes. That’s a definite value add, to me.

Mine is not particularly bright, but it is definitely a higher polish than my 5-screw gun. My -3 is the most finely finished, and the -5 is somewhere off on its own. It hasn’t the blueish cast of the others, or the “brushed” appearing finish of the 5-screw gun. It’s more of a super-fine matte black, but still a reasonably attractive revolver. I like the heavier barrel of the -5 version.

Price, as you say, “up, and then upper.” If you want it, I guess it’s not out of line. Better go get it.
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When will it be time to stop paying silly high prices for elderly Smith & Wessons?
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Ben, I think that $1,100 is a little high for a 4-screw, but as has already been said; they don't come around all that often and will in the future be worth more than that.

In my motley collection (...as compared to Mr. RKmesa's) I have a 1958 edition 4-screw K-22 that I've assessed at around 95% condition, with an unmatched period-correct box, and had valued at $950 pre-pandemic. It's NFS (as I'm still addicted to K-22's) but offer this information for your use in determining your future pursuits. Nobody here will judge you harshly for acquiring it. -S2
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Ben, I think that $1,100 is a little high for a 4-screw, but as has already been said; they don't come around all that often and will in the future be worth more than that.
Thanks and i agree...It's certainly more than I wanted to spend, and more than I offered, but I don't have a 17 no dash and the urge hit me at a time when the financial gods were smiling, so I did it......Ben
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My shooter grade 3T no dash (also a 1960 vintage) is a joy and was actually my first K-22. It eventually cost me a LOT of money as it fueled a decade long obsession!

I personally wouldn’t be concerned if it’s a “Benjamin” too much. Enjoy that beauty, they don’t stroll by very often!



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