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S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


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Old 01-19-2022, 09:29 PM
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Found this at my local gun store and Iím considering picking it up. Will run me about 900 out the door. I have some general photos of it but no close ups. Itís just labeled 1917 model smith 45acp. It looks to have an original, slightly modified us leather holster. The numbers all match, and It has some matching assembly numbers on the crane and cylinder. Anything I should look for In particular? Iím not sure if itís a commercial gun or a military issued one. It does have the lanyard loop but doesnít show well in photos. Grips look old, worn out, and possibly original. This time period interests me and Iíd love to have this on my collection if the price is correct with the market, and it passes the smell test from you guys.
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Perhaps a commercial, shows no US property markings under the barrel. But it appears reblued with roughness under the refinish. $900 is too much for a refinished 1917 in my mind. A picture of the butt serial number would be helpful.
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After looking at your pictures again there appears to be the remnants of the US property markings almost buffed away in the refinish. Too much money for that gun.
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Would a military model have the S&W logo on the left side?
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After looking at your pictures again there appears to be the remnants of the US property markings almost buffed away in the refinish. Too much money for that gun.
Thanks. I could definitely see some roughness under what appeared to be refinish but I couldnít say for certain. Thank you for the input.
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Found this at my local gun store and Iím considering picking it up. Will run me about 900 out the door. I have some general photos of it but no close ups. Itís just labeled 1917 model smith 45acp. It looks to have an original, slightly modified us leather holster. The numbers all match, and It has some matching assembly numbers on the crane and cylinder. Anything I should look for In particular? Iím not sure if itís a commercial gun or a military issued one. It does have the lanyard loop but doesnít show well in photos. Grips look old, worn out, and possibly original. This time period interests me and Iíd love to have this on my collection if the price is correct with the market, and it passes the smell test from you guys.
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I believe you are looking at a Commercial Model 1917. I do NOT see any government marks but I do see that beautiful S&W emblem under the thumb piece.

As for a refinish, [quote=christianjones;141365781Öand it passes the smell test from you guys...[/QUOTE]. There does appear to be some evidence of cold bluing on this revolver. The smell test is a very good one to determine cold bluing. Take a sniff in a couple of different areas. Smell sulfur or eggs? That indicates cold bluing!

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Would a military model have the S&W logo on the left side?
A US Military 1917, NO!

A Brazilian Model 1917? Yes!

Worth $900? Not with the refinish. More like $500-$700 around here.

The ďMADE IN U.S.A.Ē stamp on the left side also indicates it is a Commercial model. That stamp was used from 1922-3 until 1941-2.

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Would a military model have the S&W logo on the left side?
No. It wouldn't have the MADE IN USA rollmark on the right front side of frame either, That gun was made after mid 1922. Not a military 1917. The guns vintage likely matches the grips which are from between 1929 to WWII. The serail # stamped on the back of the right grip will tell us if they match the gun.

It has been reblued, there's no doubt.

How's the barrel bore? Could make a good shooter but it's not a collectable.
Not many will pay $900 for a 1917 shooter.
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With the Smith & Wesson rollmark on the right barrel, and a serial number in the low 200000 range, my vote is this is a refinished Brazilian model of 1937, probably one of the guns shipped before WW II in 1938.
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