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I am looking at a beautiful 38 M&P in the serial range 982***, which from the bible says is 1940 - 1945. 700000-1000000


Waiting to find out if there may be an S in front of the serial number...



If not, what happened in these years during the war? I have read some info, but cannot get a clear picture.


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It would be easier to look up if the entire number was posted. Your looking at a 5 years spread.
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It would be easier to look up if the entire number was posted. Your looking at a 5 years spread.

Of course, just got home and looked up the entire #, it is (if there is no S) 982138


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Don will have real specifics, but this one is likely very similar to a wartime Victory Model (4" 38 Special, matte gray finish) and went to a law enforcement or military/defense related destination.
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Don will have real specifics, but this one is likely very similar to a wartime Victory Model (4" 38 Special, matte gray finish) and went to a law enforcement or military/defense related destination.

Thanks, 6" deep blue finish from what I can see, when I find out if there is an S in front, I'll revisit..
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Likely to have been shipped around May 1942. There was never a SN V 981238. The Victories stopped at around SV 813xxx.
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Most of the handguns S&W made in that time frame were British Service Revolvers. They had standard commercial finish IIRC. Most were 5" barrels but some 6" were made. Is the gun chambered for .38 S&W Special or .38 S&W? Are the grips round top service grips with silver medallions?
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Most of the handguns S&W made in that time frame were British Service Revolvers. They had standard commercial finish IIRC. Most were 5" barrels but some 6" were made. Is the gun chambered for .38 S&W Special or .38 S&W? Are the grips round top service grips with silver medallions?

38 special, diamond magna silver medallion grips. Thanks
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I suspect it has the S prefix. At S982138, it would be a postwar M&P that shipped in about March, 1948. That would also square with the blue finish and the Magna stocks.
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I suspect it has the S prefix. At S982138, it would be a postwar M&P that shipped in about March, 1948. That would also square with the blue finish and the Magna stocks.
Probably. I guess we'll have to wait for a confirmation on the serial. It still could be a pre-war commercial M&P with later stocks. They did make a smattering of commercial guns in that time period.
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I suspect it has the S prefix. At S982138, it would be a postwar M&P that shipped in about March, 1948. That would also square with the blue finish and the Magna stocks.
If it is a S prefix M&P shipped in March of 48 that
would be as near Holy Grail birth year in my case as I have seen.
very cool...

I do have an S prefix Nov 1946 though.
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Some in this range shipped after World War II, without an S in the serial number.
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Some in this range shipped after World War II, without an S in the serial number.
Thanks Don
I definitely found that information interesting as I thought even the late victory ones were SV marked.
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I just lettered a .38 M&P Model of 1905 that shipped in 1946. It was held in inventory until the end of hostilities.
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I just lettered a .38 M&P Model of 1905 that shipped in 1946. It was held in inventory until the end of hostilities.
That is very interesting, Don. I do have a few prewar examples in my database that shipped in 1946-48, but so far all of them had the 2" barrel. I suspect the one you lettered is a pretty rare unit if it has a longer barrel. It would be fun to know how many are out there.
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I definitely found that information interesting as I thought even the late victory ones were SV marked.
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They would be SV marked if produced after mid-December, 1944, when the sliding hammer block safety was adopted. Those started shipping in January, 1945.

But it sounds like the one Don wrote about was actually assembled before the U.S. entered the war. Hence, it would not have a letter prefix.
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They would be SV marked if produced after mid-December, 1944, when the sliding hammer block safety was adopted. Those started shipping in January, 1945.

But it sounds like the one Don wrote about was actually assembled before the U.S. entered the war. Hence, it would not have a letter prefix.
Yes and it was a 2".
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I have # S991735, blue, 5" bbl., shipped 4-1948. It is a long action with the single line address. It is a 98% revolver in it's original numbered gold box. Pretty close to the C numbers. Original, numbered to the gun magna stocks
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4-1948 ? BINGO ! that was my launch date
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