Belly Guns
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Rigmover
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Happy New Year All.Now this is a real Belly Gun. Its a 1898 Iver Johnson Safety Hammer 2nd Model 2"er .32 Cal. S&W . The exact model of gun that President William MacKinley was shot with in the belly on September 6,1901 in Buffalo New York.Then died later with complications due to his injuries heres some pics Enjoy!!
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I wrote a piece (so far unpublished) on the FN 1910 semiauto pistol and called it, "Browning's Belly Gun."
It was made flat, short, fairly light, and had sights that were too small to snag in a pocket. Mine also shoots good short-range groups if I just point it and look over the top of the slide.
I've noticed that Browning's small autoloaders are generally about the same size as Smith J-frames but hold one or two more rounds. I don't think that happened by accident.
Neat guns in this thread. I was going to have my 1917 Brazilian cut down but decided I liked it too much the way it was. Should have bought two when they were cheap, I guess.
It was made flat, short, fairly light, and had sights that were too small to snag in a pocket. Mine also shoots good short-range groups if I just point it and look over the top of the slide.
I've noticed that Browning's small autoloaders are generally about the same size as Smith J-frames but hold one or two more rounds. I don't think that happened by accident.
Neat guns in this thread. I was going to have my 1917 Brazilian cut down but decided I liked it too much the way it was. Should have bought two when they were cheap, I guess.
Wyatt Burp
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Gizamo, You still out there? I've seen this gun pop up other times. In my dad's early 60's gun mags they sometimes sold cut down new services for, I think, 29 bucks. These grey rat rods are what I'm into even though I have some cool new shiney stuff. If I ever come across a NS beater, it'll end up looking something like yours. But with sanbar stags like that other guy's cut down Colt N.S. on this post. Thanks for showing the back end of that Berns-Martin. I've been thinking a long time about making one of those
but the trigger guard area was a mystery. I just have to find two, is it two?, half springs for the cylidner areas.
but the trigger guard area was a mystery. I just have to find two, is it two?, half springs for the cylidner areas.
He actually died after weeks of excruciating pain and suffering from the ineptness of his doctors.
depicts
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As a photographer, I know perspective in a 2 dimension photo of a three dimension object can fool you.
At first glance, I thought the wood on these grips were "Raised" to give a Palm-swell to a left handed shooter. It also looks like the wood near the trigger guard was relieved to allow easy access to the trigger finger of the left hand.
Is it an optical illusion to me Kevin, or is Bob correct and that is a groove cut for the fingertips of a right handed shooter?
Nice gun!
Win712
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I posted this revolver last week in the pre-45 page. These modifications were done by a Detroit Police Officer in the 1930's. I just obtained this 1917 made in 1918 from the DPD officer's son a couple of weeks ago. Greg
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kwill1911
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Right handed shooter. I think what you're seeing as trigger finger access is just an early user modification to accomodate the speed loaders. We seem to have duplicate threads now going on a lot of these guns but here's a story about one of the times this gun got used:
Regards,
Kevin Williams
Regards,
Kevin Williams
This is my Colt Official Police, cut down to 2.5 inches. This one had a bulged barrel just behind the front sight, so I had my smith cut it down to snubbie size.
Time to drag out this one again. This is a 38/44 Outddorsman, originally shipped with a 6 1/2" bbl on September 19, 1946 to Sutcliffe Hardware in Louisville, KY. It has since had the barrel shortened to 3 3/4" and had a King's front sight installed and a trigger shoe. It has also been pawn shop engraved, had custom grips installed and the cylinder has been re-chambered to 357 Magnum. This is one of my favorite S&W's. I wish this one could talk.
Looks like lots of us have favorites of these guns that we enjoy showing off at every opportunity so here is mine. If it is possible to attribute a "personality" to an inanimate object, these guns have one!
This Model 25-2 shipped to John Jovino in in New York in 1983. Jovino cut the barrel, rounded the butt, added his ball detent cylinder lock, and smoothed and rounded the hammer and trigger. I have to say that if I had to pick only one revolver to keep for carrying, this would be it!
Perhaps Jovino and his peers were responsible for the S&W Factory finally "seeing the light" and producing large bore, short barrel guns like this M29-4 which shipped in 1989.
It's very nice, but somehow, it lacks some of the "personality" of the Jovino.
Bob
This Model 25-2 shipped to John Jovino in in New York in 1983. Jovino cut the barrel, rounded the butt, added his ball detent cylinder lock, and smoothed and rounded the hammer and trigger. I have to say that if I had to pick only one revolver to keep for carrying, this would be it!
Perhaps Jovino and his peers were responsible for the S&W Factory finally "seeing the light" and producing large bore, short barrel guns like this M29-4 which shipped in 1989.
It's very nice, but somehow, it lacks some of the "personality" of the Jovino.
Bob
BRush
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Here are a pre-WWII Terrier and a Colt New Navy in .41 with a 3" barrel.
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Great photo comp Mr. Rush, nice revolvers too.
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It's alway's a delight to see wonderful photos of this fascinating class of guns. Real workhorses that got the job done and how!
.45 Colt New Service Custom, Colt Police Positive .38 S&W c.1926 with chopped barrel and Sharps 4 shooter .22 Derringer. I just dig the heck out of these threads......nice guns and photos guys! Cheers!
.45 Colt New Service Custom, Colt Police Positive .38 S&W c.1926 with chopped barrel and Sharps 4 shooter .22 Derringer. I just dig the heck out of these threads......nice guns and photos guys! Cheers!
BRush
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Nice group Lefty. I especially like that modified Colt New Service.
digi-shots
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Even though these are only .38's, they're a couple of my favorites... both k-frames:
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