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What follows is an 800-word article reprinted with permission from the Smith & Wesson Collectors Association. The article was just published in the Smith & Wesson Collectors Association Journal, Volume 50, Number 2, Summer 2016 edition. This publication is free to all S&WCA members as part of their annual membership fee.

S&WCA Event Coordinator's Corner
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Why did you join the Smith & Wesson Collectors Association? It is a simple question really, but I bet most members would answer it differently. The same question could be asked of any member organization, like the NRA or the National Wild Turkey Foundation. (It is spring turkey season as I write this so gobblers fill my mind and as many early morning hours as I can make available.) For many such organizations, the simple answer is, "To support an organization that promotes a cause I believe in."

But the S&WCA is different. It's personal. Take a look at the member's directory and you will find all kinds of collecting interests, but none explain why anyone joined. I'm sure there are as many answers as there are members.

My answer runs along these lines. My first handgun was a S&W Model 28. I chose that gun because my LEO friends at Honolulu Police Department used S&Ws and they told me about the versatility of having .357 Magnum stopping power for when needed, and the ability to shoot less expensive and low recoiling .38 Specials all the rest of the time. Sage advice, why buy a .38 when you can have a .357?

My two next purchases were a Model 65 and a Model 29. I bought a well-used 65 from a cop for cheap, but paid a hefty premium for the brand new 29 because it was there, in the case at Security Equipment next door to HPD. The 65 was customized with a double action job and a heavy black Bo-Mar rib target sight. It was and still is a fast bullseye gun. I then had two S&W 357s and already wanted them all. But in the interest of full disclosure, I could not shoot the Model 29 accurately. So it sat in the safe while I acquired more 357s. OK truth, I acquired more 38s that could shoot 357s.

Friends asked me why Smith & Wesson? Because I can't buy every gun I see. So I focus on one caliber from one manufacturer. Even then, S&W makes a lot of 357s and when you add variations, well, there is more there than I could afford.

The gun world was changing, revolvers giving way to autoloaders. Gun shops and gunshows filled with table after table of black plastic while blue and stainless revolvers gradually became scarce. At the same time, S&W went through some ownership changes and many people disliked the politics. This was a good thing for me, because it kept S&W prices down. The guns I liked were hard to find but when I found them they were affordable.

Then came the Internet and Gunbroker. A game changer for me and I started buying guns again. After I discovered the Performance Center my appetite for limited run 627s became insatiable, like I had gun-eating tapeworm. On one Internet deal, the seller was a S&WCA member and when he learned of my S&W addiction, he asked if I wanted to join the S&WCA. Next thing you know I was in The Club at last.

Like all other clubs I got an ID card with a number and a magazine. Nothing else changed. I think this is why we lose many new members, they get in and that's it. Unless you go to an annual meeting.

I joined in 2003 and went to my first meeting in Dallas in 2004. I was hooked on day one. A whole room filled with the very guns that had disappeared from shops and shows, and with greater variation than the Internet. The people were great, the guns amazing, and the deals, honesty, and sharing were all eye opening. I admit that I felt my modest collection could not compare to what I saw there and my budget could not begin to fathom the depths of many a deep pocket present. But I quickly recognized this association had tremendous value to anyone who liked Smith & Wesson's. I knew I wanted to be more than a number with a mailing address, I needed to participate.

So over the next few years I wrote articles for this journal, attended the annual meetings and even made it known that I could help with event coordination. Five years after joining I gratefully accepted the position of Event Coordinator. Using my years of experience doing the same thing in corporate America I now get to participate by making it my business to do everything I can to make sure every member who comes to a meeting has a similar experience.

So why did you join the S&WCA? Whatever your answer, come to a meeting and maximize your membership experience. Whatever your S&W passion, the people and guns present will greatly increase the value of your membership.


Thank you for reading this post. For more information about the S&WCA and and application to join please visit their website at Smith & Wesson Collectors Association.
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If you are seriously interested in S&W firearms, you really owe it to yourself to consider being a member!

I was admiring a collection of Smiths at the NRA meetings in Phoenix in 2009, and got to talking with a SWCA member. I mentioned that I only had a "few" Smiths, but have always been fascinated with them. On the spot, he encouraged me to join, gave me an application and endorsed me for membership.

I did so, and in 2010 I attended the SWCA members-only show in Tucson, Arizona, staying over several nights with some friends so I could fully participate on all days. Not wishing to haul my humble collection to Tucson, I put together a table about photographing S&Ws which was well received "for a newbie."

Immediately on entering the show room, I was greeted warmly by Rex Halfpenny (who wrote the OP here). He made me feel quite welcome, and I was soon among many friends who shared my interests. I saw guns most of us had only dreamed about - a complete collection of Registered Magnums and quite a few S&W revolving carbines, for example. It was all I could do to keep from drooling. I took lots of photos, got to rub elbows with Roy Jinks, Jim Supica, and many others whose works I had read. It truly was an experience I'll never forget.

The SWCA puts out a quarterly publication of great articles, and has a yearly show that moves around the country. I'm hoping for one in Phoenix before too long!

A benefit enjoyed by members is that you can post info on a particular firearm for review by Roy Jinks, and he can usually provide a month and year when it was shipped from the factory. Like many here, I like to know that information on each of my guns. Of course, Roy can provide a factory letter with more precise info on a gun, and it's worth the required charge if you think you have something special.

At any rate, you'll discover a great resource for your collecting interests, make many new friends, and derive a lot of pleasure by joining. I heartily recommend it!

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I joined the S&WCA about thirty years ago without knowing much about it other than its members shared my interest in Smith & Wesson firearms. As it turned out, it was the best decision I ever made regarding the collecting of S&W's 44 Magnum and several other post-war models. I also have made lifelong, good friends that I will also cherish. If you are interested in collecting and learning about S&W's the S&WCA is for you, and if you are interested in preserving the history of the company through its paper records, you should also join the Smith & Wesson Historical Foundation.

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I sent my application last week. My check has been received and I am waiting for the phone interview. You guys feel free to put in a good word for me.

Today I just bought another K frame. Can't wait to possess it and begin caring for it.
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Is the S&W Collectors Association also the S&W Historical Association? Are they run under the same umbrella? I am just wondering since both of their sites offer factory letters.
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357-RevolverGuy, The Smith & Wesson Collector Assoc and the S&W Historical Foundation are separate organizations, with separate goals. Most SWCA members also belong to the SWHF, which is a tax deductible IRS entity devoted to research and restoration of S&W archives. The SWHF has funded almost 1/2 million dollars, from donations, etc., to preserve and digitizes S&W archives and is now also responsible for issuing the factory historical letters. They also issue, for a small fee, a research packet for individual revolvers, giving copies of whatever documents are in the archives for a specific gun that has already received a factory historical letter. Often you can find out great amount of very interesting paper tracks in the archives for your specific gun. No paper track, no fee. Ed.
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Ed is correct. The S&WCA and the S&WHF are separate organizations with members who belong to both. A factory or letter of authenticity is now offered by the S&WHF (prepared by Roy Jinks) as is a Foundation Letter (prepared by me) that will provide documents about your S&W firearm if they are found during the search (records searched cover the years 1920-1941 at present). You must have a factory letter before I can do a Foundation Letter on your S&W.

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Please don't let that be a roadblock for you. Most people are able to get a member to serve as their sponsor. However, the Association also knows that not everyone is acquainted with a member. For that reason the Association also permits applications to be submitted with a letter of recommendation from an FFL dealer OR with no member Sponsor. In the latter instance the Association will have a member of the Board of Directors contact the applicant for a very brief telephone interview.

The S&WCA is very much interested in attracting those who have a strong interest in Smith & Wessons. If you need an application for membership you can get one right here on the Forum. Look at the bar at the top for Downloads. Click on that and then look on the left side for New Member Application. You can download the application.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I will be happy to assist you. We would welcome your application.
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Thanks Ordnance Guy for you kind offer and encouragement. I have a copy of the form on my desk and chuckle everytime I read the part about a phone call. My ears are so bad these days that most of my answers would be "Huh ?". I have had a kind offer from a member who just might be able to hook me up. I will probably be joining your ranks soon, one way or another.

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I only have four hand ejectors but got hooked after my first buy, a 32 20 round butt and came on this site to see if I could shoot smokeless powder rounds and everyone was great. Which does not, I admit , have a lot to do with joining the org., but hell yeah, who wouldnt want to belong to a group with people like this? I will have to do the phone call cause I don't know anyone else who belongs.
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Join AND get yourself to a SWCA annual meeting. I have been to two and both were wonderful experiences. Its like a 3 1/2 day gunshow ... all smith and wessons ... broken up with excellent speakers, both silent and live auctions of donated items, and over the top food. And the displays of S&W guns and historic articles is just mind blowing.

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I have been a member for 8 or 9 years now and will tell anyone that it's well worth it. To be able to email or call experts and ask a question is priceless. The journal that comes out every 3 months or so is outstanding and the annual symposium(which I haven't attended yet)looks to be a wonderful event.

I've also made some life long friends that I speak with often. Just a great organization!!!
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I saw Smiths I had only read about and nothing but Smiths. You don't have to have a collection to be welcomed and to feel right at home. It is a very down to earth and friendly bunch.

My most unforgetable memory of that meeting is rather amazing. There was a member there, now deceased, from whom I negotiated with and bought a 6 inch nickel 19. I asked if he would take a check or should I get cash from an ATM. He said "If you are a member of this organization, you must be ok, just mail me a check when you get home."

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I have not had the opportunity to go to a symposium yet (work travel, kid's sports tournaments, etc…), but hopefully I will get to Charlotte. I have run into a number of longtime members at various gunshows over the years, and now I always look forward to seeing them and talking for a bit.

I'm always willing to meet up locally with any prospective members who want to learn more about the SWCA. I'll buy you a cup of coffee (anything but Dunkin' Donuts) some morning or a drink after work and share my experiences.
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Not sure what you mean by this response. I am assuming that "joint" is a typo but not sure what you mean about having an office. You don't need an office to join and don't even have to work in an office to join. We have folks from every walk of life and most every profession. I think that the main criteria is a love of Smith and Wesson's or the products associated therewith.

The members not only have the most vast knowledge of Smith and Wesson's on the planet but are also willing to share that information. I think that is the one common thread that makes the S&WCA such a great organization to be a part of.

If you are really serious about joining or just want more information, please feel free to PM me or send me an email. I always have time to talk about S&W's and the Smith and Wesson Collectors Association.
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Not sure what you mean by this response. I am assuming that "joint" is a typo but not sure what you mean about having an office. You don't need an office to join and don't even have to work in an office to join.....
I'm wondering whether this is about needing to have MS Office on your computer to open and print the application. At least somewhere it was first accessible, it opened as a Word document, not a pdf., and you'd indeed need Office on your machine to get to it. Maybe that's it?

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I'm wondering whether this is about needing to have MS Office on your computer to open and print the application. At least somewhere it was first accessible, it opened as a Word document, not a pdf., and you'd indeed need Office on your machine to get to it. Maybe that's it?
Now that you explained it that way, I'm betting that is what the poster was asking. Before that I couldn't figure out where I was going to find an office.......... It's been sixteen glorious years since I had one.
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After reading all of the comments previous to my posting, I've decided to join. My check will be in the mail on Monday.

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Yes it was a typo and I said office not an office. If you call me young you are really old.
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Sorry, never made the connection to software. Back in the day when Fred and Barney were selling the first computers, they came loaded with all of the software that you needed including one to write stuff with, so I don't even think in terms of not having a certain software. I guess now a days you have to buy all of the software separately so it is possible that you might not have what you need for a download.

As far as old goes, I am old, older than dirt and have been a Life Member of the NRA since 1976 and a forum member since 2000 IIRC. So most everybody is younger than me.

PM me your address and I will gladly download, print and mail you a hard copy for you to fill out. I'll even pay the postage.
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Should be plenty of free source software out there. ... that's about all I ever use, but then I'm still using Windows 97 & XP.

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Yes it was a typo and I said office not an office. If you call me young you are really old.
I wouldn't let that stop me from joining. If you'd like I'd be happy to mail you an application. PM me your address and I'll get it in the mail pronto.
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"Enabling" don't even begin to explain what happens on this forum. Before I found this place, I had money, was somewhat well adjusted, had a life that didn't revolve around finding my next S&W(fix), never had a list of must have S&W's and actually never had any desire in making a trip to Charlotte. Last night I informed the lady that we had just purchased another S&W, that it had been 91 days since my last purchase and that the 2017 plan was to include a trip to Charlotte. I've even convinced myself that these acquisitions are an investment and more fun than buying a CD. hardcase60
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... and that the 2017 plan was to include a trip to Charlotte.
Whoa wait a minute. Did you say the next year's meeting is in Charlotte? That's close to where I'm at. I'm downloading the application now.
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I sent my application last week. My check has been received and I am waiting for the phone interview. You guys feel free to put in a good word for me.

Today I just bought another K frame. Can't wait to possess it and begin caring for it.
Just had my phone interview. Just a matter of time now. Can't wait.

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Thanks to all the encouragement from of the posters above, I finally downloaded the application and filled it out, and wrote a cover letter telling a little about myself, along with my cell number so that I can be contacted for an interview. i'm afraid that I don't know any local members, and hope that this will be an acceptable form of application. Also of course, attached a money order for the dues. Went out in the mail just an hour ago.

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Welcome aboard, Les. I made a statement about not having a sponser, and my ears are so bad that I was afraid of a phone call. The support ( like Wiregrassguy above) I received was heartwarming.
I would gladly sponser you, but I think I'm in some sort of probation before I'm taught the secret handshake.

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Wow!! Guy and Bruce, thanks so much for your support!!! I feel good about this already!!! I have really enjoyed belonging to the forum for the past year and a half, and had thought as I said that I would have to find someone in person... Then after I found this thread, I realized that I might be able to do it this way.

Well, if "they" still need for me to find a sponsor, I'll get in touch with you fellows!

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Me too, Les... I have a schedule conflict for the northeast Ohio meeting October 1st...wife said, "go to that smith and wesson thing." What a gal....
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Well, Guy, Bruce and Robert... I received an email yesterday that my application had been received, but since I didn't include a sponsor or letter from an FFL, they would be scheduling a phone interview. I hope I can hear!!! Anyway, I am looking forward to doing the interview. I'll keep you guys posted on my progress. Thanks again for your support!!!

By the way, while I was at it I went ahead and filled out and mailed an application and contribution to the S&W Historical Foundation. I don't really know why I never did this before. I had thought about joining the Collectors Association, but didn't know anyone locally.

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I suspect that a quick review of your posts on this site would cover any questions they might have. I need to get that Hysterical thing out of the way myself.

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I too would sponsor you Les. I don't know you other than what I read here but you appear to be a gentleman and truly interested in learning about S&W's. If those aren't the two most important conditions of being a member, I can't think of two more important.
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