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I have been unable to find out hardly anything about this snubnose revolver on the internet. It looks brand new. It must not be too common as it is a .32. Serial number is 8163XX. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I have been unable to find out hardly anything about this snubnose revolver on the internet. It looks brand new. It must not be too common as it is a .32. Serial number is 8163XX. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
God! One of my favoritist guns. I have both the 30-1 and the 31-1. They are a joy to shoot. The 30-1 was made between 1948 and 1976. Originally built on the I-frame, 1961 began the production on the J frame. Diamond grips deleted in 1968. What do you want to know. It's one of the best little guns Smith made.

Serial numbers: 1961-1970 712954-826977. Yours is towards the end so figure 1969 or 1970.

Someone correct me if I messed up the numbers. Wouldn't be the first time.

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I don't know much about the snubbies, but I sure like the 3" versions.
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Well, I bought 30-1 #7635XX during the Summer of 1968 so I would put yours 1969 or '70 leaning more toward early 1970. By "The Book" 1869 started at 786544.
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30-1 is allso one of my favorit s&w,mine is a 3in.pretty low ser.#,H3

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Default General info on the mod 30-1

The -1 mod number was the change to the J frame in April 1961 at #712954. In 1970 the factory changed the serial numbering system on these guns to using an H serial number prefix at serial #826977. The mod 30 could be bought in a barrel length of 2", 3", and 4". An interesting side note; the mod 30 is a round butt gun and the mod 31 is a square butt gun. This is the only guns that S&W made a model change for the butt configuration with the same caliber and/or barrel length!
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Thanks all for this information. It is a 2". The blueing is about 100%, if not 100%. I really like the S&W revolvers but don't know much about them (I only have one other, a 19-6). Until now, I have been a Glock fan (and have a bunch), and somewhat still am, but it is hard not to love the Smiths the most.

I have no idea about value but would like to. I gave $150 for the 30-1 which is what the owner paid and wanted.
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The Model 30 is a favorite of mine also. $150 for a near-100% model is a fantastic price.

FYI you can shoot .32 ACP rounds from your new gun. I do this all the time. The ACP rounds are a lot cheaper than factory .32 Long ammo.
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You got a great deal. I have been looking for a model 30, or 31 but they are snagged up quick!! I also shoot 32 acp out of my 631. You can find 32 S&W long at the bigger gun shops (if they are not out) but forget about finding it in the big box stores.
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You got a great deal. I have been looking for a model 30, or 31 but they are snagged up quick!! I also shoot 32 acp out of my 631. You can find 32 S&W long at the bigger gun shops (if they are not out) but forget about finding it in the big box stores.






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I grew tired at finding Prime examples costing in the $450.00-$595.00 dollar range, so I Picked up this Cosmetically challenged Blued one for $100.00, That Locked up Tight and had a shinny Bore and sent it off to Ford's in Florida for a re-finish. After a Lengthy conversation, we decided to go with the High Polished chrome finish as they said it would wear the best for daily carry. The Grips are serial numbered to the gun, as you can see it was real Rough Looks wise before I sent it to them. I prepped it prior to sending it, and I will Not take on that chore again as I have Many, Many Hour's in sanding Out all The Rust & Pits. I have carried it more than two years now, and it shows Zero evidence of carry wear. I have $300.00 in it Now, and no regreats to buying one that had not been shot much, but did not get the best of care externally. Ford's also Re-Applied the factory S&W Logo on it. I found it an afordable way to get a Pre-30 and this one is from 1958 Not Model Marked. I felt the Market Prices of Pristeen ones were high and daily carry would have soon Turned them into a shooter grade revolver in no Time, as Blued finish's show carry wear very fast, and even nickel will wear in time so The Hard chrome finish idea has served me well. This changed my out look on daily carry weapons and should I ever need another one, I would Not hesitate to Buy one finish challenged for a Song and have Ford's so their magic to it. Regards, Hammerdown



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Thanks all for the information. It is so nice looking that I hate to carry/holster it. I still can't find out much about this gun....except for this great site.
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Hammerdown, am I seeing things? Looks like the barrel pin is missing in your photos. jandogty, you have the deal we all are looking for, good shooting. Sorry, don't mean to hyjack your post.
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Hammerdown, am I seeing things? Looks like the barrel pin is missing in your photos.

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It was. I sent it back and they Placed the Barrel pin back in it. Regards, Hammerdown
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I'm not normally a fan of refinishing, but in this case what a difference! I think you did the right thing. Just one question though, why was the barrel pin not finished to match?
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Do, or would you consider this to be a decent carry gun? If so, what ammo? If not, other than a nice piece, I am not sure what the use would be except the obvious fun of shooting it. Thanks.
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Georgia Arms makes a 85 gr.JHP , 32 S&W long round advertised at 850FPS.Sounds like it would be pretty good,
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Sure, Police Departments all over the U.S. Carried this round for years. As The Previous Poster Pointed out, Georgia ammo sells some Potent ammo for the .32 S&W Long Cartridge. I carry it and hand load all my own ammo for it... Hammerdown
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Carry the .32 with confidence, it will shine with some good ammo and it is light and easy to carry. Now where are the pictures???
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Hammerdown, what a difference that makes!!
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Thanks, I simply love the .32 S&W Long round & have worked it up by hand loading recently for both my J-Frame and K-Frames. One can safely shoot this round at .38 Special velocities out of a -J-frame and still have one more round in the -J-Frames compared to the .38 special caliber-j-Frames... Hammerdown
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I have a model 30, 2" barrel stainless, serial# H95605. It's maybe had 1 box of shells fired with it. It was my father's gun. Anybody have an idea of it's value for insurance purposes?

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I have a model 30, 2" barrel stainless, serial# H95605. It's maybe had 1 box of shells fired with it. It was my father's gun. Anybody have an idea of it's value for insurance purposes?

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Chances are, if it is a Model 30, you have a nickel finish there rather than stainless steel. AFAIK, there was never a stainless Model 30... but there was a stainless Model 631, IIRC, but it will be a .32 Magnum version with target features.

If it really is a Model 30, the H95605 SN puts into the mid to early 1970s.

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They did a wonderful job on the gun.
Looks great.
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Chances are, if it is a Model 30, you have a nickel finish there rather than stainless steel. AFAIK, there was never a stainless Model 30... but there was a stainless Model 631, IIRC, but it will be a .32 Magnum version with target features.

If it really is a Model 30, the H95605 SN puts into the mid to early 1970s.

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It's a model 30. It may be nickel instead of stainless. My mom and I bought it for my father in the 70's. He owned a service station and wanted to carry it in his pocket on the nights he worked alone. I have the original user documentation to the pistol from S&W. WHat should I insure it for or list it for for an insurance list?

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Is this a model 30?





Under crane it says,

40973 and the letter E,

On frame it says 400.30
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Carry the .32 with confidence, it will shine with some good ammo and it is light and easy to carry.
Words of wisdom from the forum's resident .32 guru. These S&W snubbies offer the versatility of either .32 long or .32 magnum ammunition, plus a 6 shot to 5 advantage over .38 and .357 J frames. Bottom to top: 631, 631 Lady Smith, 632 Airweight.
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I have a .32 long S&W model 30-1. I wonder if any speed loaders would work for this pistol. There does not appear to be enough clearance between cylinder and frame / grip. Any comments?
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I have been unable to find out hardly anything about this snubnose revolver on the internet. It looks brand new. It must not be too common as it is a .32. Serial number is 8163XX. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
I have a 3"model 30-1 in practically new condition. It has checkered wood round butt grips and a beautiful polished blue finish with no wear, rust, pitting, or even a scratch. H 284200 is stamped on the butt of the grip but I'm not sure that it's the serial #, although a guy who is supposed to know the history of the 30-1 series says it is. The only other numbers are stamped on the yoke and I don't think S&W ever put serial #s there.

My wife inherited it from her mother who carried it in her car for many years before she passed away. As far as I know it was never fired by her, but her brother may have fired it a few times. I have fired approximately 200 rounds, mostly lead bullet handloads. I used load data I found in an old Handloader's Digest but reduced it by 15% just to be safe. If the velocity claimed by the writer for his maximum charge handloads is accurate mine should be good for approximately 825 - 850 fps with a 98 grain LSWC bullet.

I also made up a few rounds with the propellant weight he listed as maximum, (98 gr LSWC and 4.5 gr Unique), but I'm hesitant to fire them after being told that those little revolvers in pristine condition have considerable value as collector items.
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I have a .32 long S&W model 30-1. I wonder if any speed loaders would work for this pistol. There does not appear to be enough clearance between cylinder and frame / grip. Any comments?
Am not aware of a speedloader made for the model 30-1 . . . or any model chambered for 32 S&W Long.

I did use speed loaders for my model 36s in .38 S&W Special caliber, but encountered the same problem you describe with the factory as well as many after-market stocks. I now use Bianchi SpeedStrip for the .38 and a Tuff Products "QuickStrip" for the .32. They work great, are much easier to carry and - with a little practice - can be as quick to use as a speed loader.

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Am not aware of a speedloader made for the model 30-1 . . . or any model chambered for 32 S&W Long.

I did use speed loaders for my model 36s in .38 S&W Special caliber, but encountered the same problem you describe with the factory as well as many after-market stocks. I now use Bianchi SpeedStrip for the .38 and a Tuff Products "QuickStrip" for the .32. They work great, are much easier to carry and - with a little practice - can be as quick to use as a speed loader.

Good luck and enjoy,

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The H.K.S. 32-J speedloader is for T and J Frame .32 revolvers. It also works for the .32 Caliber Colt Police Positive and Detective Special models.

It will not work with Colt .32-20 Police Positive S[ecial guns.
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I just put a LNIB 3" 30-1 on layaway. It will be my first .32 caliber revolver. I can't wait to try iy out.
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I have never owned any J-I- or Improved I-Frame revolver chambered in .32 S&W Long Cartridge that did not shoot well. The Cartridge is super accurate and seem's to shoot at point of aim. I hand Load for all of the families .32 S&W Long Cartridge hand guns as i like to have a more potent round as most loads shown for them are mild. I also use Hornady 85 Grain XTP Bullet's which you can't find in any factory loads as most are wad cutters or Lead round bullets. I came across this 30-1 In Nickel about 4 Months ago. I have looked long and hard for one in Nickel but they don't seem to be out there. It is now in my wife's Purse....Hammerdown









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Thanks for the information Hammerdown. Beautiful 30 you have there. The nickel examples are scarce around here too in most models. Congrats!
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I just put a like new (I'd say easily 90-95% condition) 30-1 on lay a way today. I paid $400 out the door price for it. I'll have it paid off in 3-4 months from now unless I can come up w/ the rest of the money sooner. I have 120 days to get it paid off in. The serial number of the gun is 8152xx. Can any body tell me when the gun was likely made and if I got an ok deal on it. From what researched I've found they I'm seeing these in good condition sell for $450-$550. This is my first Smith & Wesson and also my first revolver. I believe it might be the 2" barrel however I haven't measured it so I don't know for fact, just guessing by the looks of how short it is. The pics are of the actual gun, they're descent pics but keep in mind they're crappy cell phone pics & don't do the gun justice and it is a really good looking gun.
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Regarding ammo, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Buffalo Bore yet. They produce two varieties of 32 S&W Long (aka 32 Colt New Police): a 115 gr hardcast flatnose at 800 fps, and a 100 gr hardcast wadcutter at 900 fps. My choice would be the wadcutter. From their website, it looks like the claimed velocities must be for a 4" gun, so expect somewhat less from a snubby.
Tha's the good news, the bad news is that they each sell for about $26 for a box of 20.
BTW Hammerdown, that's a beautiful refinish job on your pre-model 30. You say that it is a polished hard chrome finish, not nickel? Never heard of that on a gun before, but it sure looks great & sounds like it will hold up well.

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As to speedloaders, HKS makes one that oddly enough is their Model #32. If you like HKS speedloaders, it works fine... I prefer the spring loaded type but haven't been able to find one for the 32.

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My favorite SW the M-30-1 in 3" , a pleasure to shoot and own. I use a 100gr. flat tip hard cast bullet with 3.2 to 3.7 grs of Unique. Super accurate with good power and felon repellent.
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My favorite SW the M-30-1 in 3" , a pleasure to shoot and own. I use a 100gr. flat tip hard cast bullet with 3.2 to 3.7 grs of Unique. Super accurate with good power and felon repellent.
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Jeeps and hotrod150, I like to load my own for the 32 S&W Long with a 95-100 gr SWC and around 2 gr of Bullseye. When I'm going factory, I like the 100 gr JHPs from Georgia Arms. I can safely use them in all of my 32s from my early Reg Police models to my niece's 3" Model 30-1.

And to the person who asked way back when whether or not the 32 S&W L is enough of a round for EDC... I certainly hope so as it's what I generally have. If it looks like I'm going to have real trouble, I usually prefer to just stay home!

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100gr.hard cast flat point at 900-950fps is very power full felon repellent. I got rid of my 9mm Shield and carry my M-30-1 3" instead,more reliable and more accurate. It puts them where I aim. While the pristine M30 was worth $500ish unfired , $500 doe's not buy much anymore. My life is priceless.

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My taste run against the grain of conventional wisdom and financial advice. Even though it is cheaper to save a little longer and purchase a higher grade specimen-I still prefer to purchase a shooter grade something that I can enjoy shooting or carrying and refinish to my preference.

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