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Old 04-08-2010, 02:26 PM
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Due to my father-in-law’s recent passing, I am a new, uneducated gun owner. I have a Smith & Wesson 22 Long Rifle CTG revolver. I would appreciate any info I can get, especially its age. I tried to research it, but most of them I have seen online have a letter, usually K, preceding the serial number. Mine does not. The serial number is 276xxx. It is stamped in at least 3 places. Also, most 22 LR CTG’s seem to have a number on the butt of the handle. There is nothing on mine, as seen here. There is also a number on the frame that can be seen when the cylinder is swung out. It is:
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I was also wondering if this would be good for recreational target shooting.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
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Hi, and welcome! You have a K-22 Target Masterpiece, built on the K or medium frame with a 6" barrel. The numbers and such on the frame under the barrel with the cylinder swung out are factory internal codes, not the serial number. If you remove the stocks by taking the screw off from the left side, you will find the true serial number. Many guns of this type came with smaller stocks and you could see the serial number with these on. We can help tell you when your gun was made with the SN, but from the hammer shape if original it looks to be from about the late 1940s. Hope this is helpful.
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You could not have a better family heirloom to continue the shooting tradition .
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The shape of the hammer on your K22 Masterpiece suggests the gun was made before 1957 so it will likely not have a model number stamped on it.

The stocks are not correct period, being of post-1982 manufacture (but they are very pretty).

My condolences on your father in law's passing. You must have been a favorite son in law for him to want you to have what surely must have been one of his most prized handguns. The K22 is a classic in every sense of the word.

The serial will indeed have a K prefix.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:46 PM
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Welcome to the forum and my condolences to your family.

It looks like he left you a wonderful old Smith for target shooting. I know you'll enjoy it.

The stocks, by the way, are beautiful. I had very simular ones on a Model 27-2 that I bought in 1978.
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:52 PM
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Sorry to hear of the passing of your Father-in-law.

In my (and many others) opinion, you couldn't find a better firearm for recreational target shooting. After you get used to it you will be amazed at how accurate your K22 really is.

It's always a good idea to seek out some experienced help if you're not totally comfortable with the safety aspect of operating your "new" S&W.

Good Luck!
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Like the others, I offer both condolences and a warm welcome to the forum.

Your gun probably dates from 1956. One of your photos shows that it uses an assembly process not involving an upper side plate screw; that screw was done away with in a 1955 engineering change. Also, I bet the 275xxx number IS the serial number, and the K will be found separated from it. If so, that is further evidence for 1956. A lot of K27xxxx guns shipped in that year. And as previously noted, the shape of the hammer indicates postwar manufacture before 1957.

Look at the back of the cylinder. You should see an isolated K between two charge holes, and then the 275xxx number just after the second hole. You should also see that number (with its preceding K) on the flat underside of the barrel when the cylinder is open, It will also be seen on the steel butt of the gun when the target stocks are removed.

The target stocks on your gun are not original, as someone pointed out. These are a later style with a speedloader cutout. But the gun previously had the earlier type of target stocks on it. You can deduce that from the curving grime lines above the right stock panel and on the left where the speedloader cutout is seen. You might look around the house to see if those older stocks are still there. They have some value in their own right.

The S&W K-frame .22s are regarded by many as the finest .22 revolvers ever made. You have inherited a classic that will be perfect for everything from target shooting to plinking to snake protection on field trips, if you live in a part of the world where field trips are possible. There are lots of K-22 fanciers on this forum (I am one) and some of us have more than one we like them so much.

An early word on ammunition. Not every brand of ammunition functions equally well in K-22 revolvers. Try several types, and just stop using the ones where the cases tend to stick in the cylinder and give you ejector problems.
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Beautiful piece! And very much sought after. To answer your question, the K22 is, in my opinion, the absolute perfect "recreational target" gun.
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That is a very nice K-22, you will be able to pass it on to your children...
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I'm sorry for your loss and I want to tell you that you ended up with a very popular and fun classic S&W revolver.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:58 PM
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Yes, there is indeed an isolated K. I missed that. I also removed the stocks. The K is there also. Thanks to everyone for the great replys and the kind words.
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Welcome to the forum! I can think of no better way to introduce yourself than with pictures of a nice K-22. I'm sorry for your loss, but at the same time I want to congratulate you on the wonderful acquisition. The K-22 is THE best recreational revolver IMO. Fun and inexpensive to shoot, and with the right ammo more accurate than most other handguns. Enjoy it and make sure that when the time comes, it gets passed on to another family member, along with the verbal history, who will cherish it like you do.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:08 AM
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freddy1, The target stocks on your K22 appear to be for an N frame revolver.
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Cool .22 revolver CTG

Recently i got a gift from my my uncle .22 revolver CTG bearing 6x462 on the left side of the but, and on the right side of the but is 7145. can you tell me more details of this revolver, thanks.
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What is the serial# on the bottom of the butt? That is the "real" serial#.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:48 PM
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Welcome to the forum lalfa.
No big deal but this thread is over 5 years old.
You might check the sticky (To IDENTIFY your Gun >) at top of page, then start a new thread with any questions.

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well, Let me try to clarify again. At the yoke printed is Mod.63 The butt left side is 6x462. the same # 6x462 is seen at the yoke as well. Some places at the butt S623 ...H12 on the right side of the butt is 7145. At The bottom of the butt appears be the model # M166XXX of course the barrel length is 4 inches.
With that i hope you can help me out to identify the type of the gun i am having . Thank you.
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well, Let me try to clarify again. At the yoke printed is Mod.63 The butt left side is 6x462. the same # 6x462 is seen at the yoke as well. Some places at the butt S623 ...H12 on the right side of the butt is 7145. At The bottom of the butt appears be the model # M166XXX of course the barrel length is 4 inches.
With that i hope you can help me out to identify the type of the gun i am having . Thank you.
You have a Model 63 .22/32 Kit Gun in stainless steel. This model was manufactured between 1977-1998. The serial# is the one on the bottom of the grip frame or "butt" of the revolver serial# M166XXX. The other numbers you see are a combination of inspectors markings, assembly numbers that mean nothing once the firearm leaves the factory. Your serial# dates to about 1981.
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Can i fire .22 magnum with this revolver ?
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Can i fire .22 magnum with this revolver ?
NO! Absolutely not
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There is a very similar model to your model 63, the 651, that will fire .22 Magnum. It would be stamped .22 M.R.F. (Magnum Rim Fire) on the right barrel. This round is longer than the .22 LR and will not seat fully in your gun, so it cannot be used.
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wow,,
that's great, one step knowledge for me, i would love to get that model 651 too ! one more question.. if i have .22 MRF, does it mean that I can fire .22 magnum as well as .22 LR ?
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that's great, one step knowledge for me, i would love to get that model 651 too ! one more question.. if i have .22 MRF, does it mean that I can fire .22 magnum as well as .22 LR ?
Welcome from the Pine Barrens of southern New Jersey.

To the best of my knowledge, a 22LR will NOT interchange with a 22MRF. You would be looking to damage a fine handgun.
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Can i do cold bluing with this stainless steel .22LR revolver
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No. Your revolver is made of a stainless steel alloy. While it is not rust proof, it is rust resistant. Rust is the oxidation of metal, and bluing is a form of oxidation, so the metal will resist the reaction that colors the metal. The factory (Smith & Wesson) has tried several times to produce blued stainless steel handguns, but the results haven't looked much like bluing or been very durable. The darkly finished stainless steel slides on some of their auto pistols is more of a coating than bluing.

As for being able to shoot both .22LR and .22 Magnum Rim Fire from one gun, it requires two different cylinders, one for each chambering, as the Magnum round is both FATTER and LONGER than the Long Rifle. S&W and others have made .22 rimfire revolvers that have 2 cylinders, one for each, but they are usually .22 MRF guns like the Model 48,651 or 650 that have an extra cylinder for .22 LR, because the barrel for the .22 MRF is bored slightly larger than for the .22 LR, close enough to work. If you try to shoot .22 LR in a .22 MRF chamber, it often ruptures and splits the brass case, spits stuff out of the barrel/cylinder gap and the accuracy can be poor. Out of a 4 inch barrel, the Magnum round doesn't really give you much extra power, anyway.

You have a very nice handgun there. Enjoy it.
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Thank you very much for your valuable comments. it really helps.
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