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Old 04-22-2018, 10:45 PM
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Good afternoon, fellow 58 fans. A lot of nice revolvers here.

Quick question for any one of you - could you please measure the height of the front sight on your revolver for me?

I'm looking for the measurement of top (flat) of barrel to extreme top of the front sight.

I had traded for a great model 58 in Montana, that I found later belonged to a fellow member here on the the forum from Missouri. Apparently, if I remember correctly, he had sold it to another member from Texas.

Anyway, this model 58 had the original front sight drilled and fitted with a speck of glow-in-the-dark luminant that was filled with dust and whatnot, and because it was so far in to the sight, never saw any light, and thus would never glow.

Being that I obsess over things too much, I just had to "fix" the thing because all it was was a hole right into the front sight.

So, I sent it off to the factory for replacement, and I just got it back recently, and I'm really disappointed in the work.

The sight does not lay flat against the top of the barrel, so that now I constantly get a rag wedged under the leading edge, and it also appears to be way too high compared to the pictures I see here of original ones.

I thought about taking it out back and shooting it to check elevation, but I'm not really happy about the whole thing, and can't bring myself around to running expensive .41 mag ammo through it, being that the front sight isn't sitting flat against the barrel, to begin with.

So with all of that said, could one or two of you put a caliper on your front sight and let me know what it should be? I'm going to have to get this one replaced too, and I want to fit it with the correct one.

Thanks much, in adavance.
After writing this, I was able to remember how to add photos. Here's the pics of my 58 before sending to S&W (with the hole drilled in the sight), and after (with the unseated sight).

I've since removed the unseated front sight, but I'm still waiting for someone to put a caliper on their revolver, and tell me what the height is suppose to be so that I can purchase a replacement.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!




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Old 04-23-2018, 11:25 AM
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Just checked mine. It appears to be .210, as best as I can tell.
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:43 AM
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I have a question for you guys. I have a 58 I picked up a few years ago from the original owner. SN S327XXX. It did not have the box, so I have no idea what the factory configuration was. It has a service hammer, target trigger and target grips. Is it possible came from the factory that way? I would think not, but wanted to see what you guys think. I don't recall if the grips were numbered to the gun, but they are packed away and are not easily accessible right now.

Also... I need to have it worked on. The timing is possibly off, as it binds up in both SA and DA. Any recommendations who to send it to? There are no local 'smith's that I trust to do the work. Our local guy seriously goobered up a simple sight install on my M&P22C, no way will I trust him with my 58.

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Old 04-23-2018, 10:44 PM
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Just checked mine. It appears to be .210, as best as I can tell.
That One Guy, thanks much for getting me that measurement. The one the factory put in as a replacement was .241, and just appeared way too high.

I found a front sight on ebay, and have it on the way.


Also as for configuration, I have an early N serial number, and it has target trigger, service hammer, and PC Magnas numbered to the gun. My knowledge of the 58's is pretty limited, so perhaps others can help you with more.

As for repair work, I have always had the best service with S&W itself. They have worked on almost every revolver I have as I send them all in to the factory, once I find a new one. The trigger work I get back has always been excellent, and they'll always find and fix things that I didn't even know where issues, and not even charge me for them.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure what happened with this sight replacement that I wrote about, as it was just wrong in more than two ways, but I wouldn't stop sending stuff to them in the future because of this one thing.



Thanks again!

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Old 04-28-2018, 03:47 PM
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I was t a local gun shop the other day . He showed me a 58 he had for sale . It had been refinished , chromealloy type or something like it . What was interesting was someone in the past had round butted the grip frame . He offered it to me for $650 , " out the door " . I told him I needed to think about it . I would have to remove the grips and see if the grip change had been done professionally or another " bubba job " .
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Old 04-28-2018, 03:58 PM
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I guess I'm just too much of a purest, I do not own a model 58 but, do own a nice model 57. I'd have to pass on this modified one but, that's just my $.02.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:17 PM
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Over 40 years ago I won an 8 3.8" 57 at a shooting match (it had been fired and came with two boxes of ammo).

My intent was to sell it since I already had a couple .44 Magnums but I made the mistake of shooting it - one of the most accurate revolvers I've ever encountered.

So I started handloading for it. Then a good friend who I boar hunted with (he was an engineer in the ammo dept of a major manufacturer) showed me his model 58 converted to .45 Colt - every time he shot one it just fell down on the spot and I wanted to make one so I started looking for model 58s.

In short order I found deals on 3 of them. One had been roundbutted, one had a lot of wear on the finish, and one was pristine.

I left the pristine one alone and it turned out to be very accurate. I picked the one with the less than perfect finish for conversion but came upon a deal on a .44 Magnum barrel and a cylinder for free so it sort of made its own choice to become a .44.

I cut the barrel off at the ejector rod housing (3.25" I think) and round butted it - alas the most accurate load for it is full charge Federal 240 gr JHPs - they hurt! I sort of shelved the project and have not refinished the gun yet but some day.

I am not sure how to post pics but I will try (the group on the left was Triton 165 and the right was Federal 240 JHP - shot at 25 yards)
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Old 04-28-2018, 06:05 PM
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howdy , model 58 are boss , I own 2 and looking for 3 or 4 , or 3
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:51 AM
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Is anyone aware of any Florida law enforcement agencies using the Model 58 in the late 1960s?
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:16 PM
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After writing this, I was able to remember how to add photos. Here's the pics of my 58 before sending to S&W (with the hole drilled in the sight), and after (with the unseated sight).

I've since removed the unseated front sight, but I'm still waiting for someone to put a caliper on their revolver, and tell me what the height is suppose to be so that I can purchase a replacement.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!



I'd probably have the hole filled with Gold and forget it, looks centered?
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:35 PM
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I keep searching the for sale/auction sites but, nothing yet, hopefully someday?
I do wish posters would go back in and repair photos on their posts, please? That darn Photobucket!!!
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I have a question for you guys. I have a 58 I picked up a few years ago from the original owner. SN S327XXX. It did not have the box, so I have no idea what the factory configuration was. It has a service hammer, target trigger and target grips. Is it possible came from the factory that way? I would think not, but wanted to see what you guys think. I don't recall if the grips were numbered to the gun, but they are packed away and are not easily accessible right now.

Also... I need to have it worked on. The timing is possibly off, as it binds up in both SA and DA. Any recommendations who to send it to? There are no local 'smith's that I trust to do the work. Our local guy seriously goobered up a simple sight install on my M&P22C, no way will I trust him with my 58.
Yes, it is possible that it came from the factory that way. I have seen one at a gun show that had the properly marked box. I also saw one I believe here on the S&W Forums...

When you say "binding up", you mean the cylinder gets sticky turning? Is it only on some of the chambers or all of them? That usually isn't timing, it is usually a cylinder gap issue when the cylinder face is dragging on the end of the barrel.

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Old 05-08-2018, 09:20 PM
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I do wish posters would go back in and repair photos on their posts, please? That darn Photobucket!!!
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Here is my first year model 58 no dash. I got it off of GB.com from a dealer in Alaska. I assume it must have been carried frequently due to the finish that was applied to it. To me the finish looks good on the gun. Looks like a model 10 on steroids
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Lobo...can you tell what the finish is?

I have one that has been parkerized...it is gray...I like your flat black more...

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Lobo...can you tell what the finish is?

I have one that has been parkerized...it is gray...I like your flat black more...

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I don't know what the finish is, it came that way when I got it. I wish I knew though as I like it too
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Heck any 58 in nice tight shooting condition is a good gun!
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:09 PM
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I don't know what the finish is, it came that way when I got it. I wish I knew though as I like it too
I don't know how he did it, but I sent a 581 to Carl Sokol years ago for some customization and he had to re-blue it and it came with a flat black bluing too - just like that M58.
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I might just as well admit it, I'm more into adjustable sighted S&W I can move the sights on to adjust for different loads for. Could never see the high prices on 58s, especially the few that surface every once in a while, I've been looking. I'll stick with my model 57 in four inch. You guys have fun with these.
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