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Old 02-29-2020, 03:11 PM
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There's a SWEET custom Model 58 on another site for sale right now... 3" round butted. Jack Abene custom. Supposedly his personal carry piece for a while which he supposedly made for himself. Has "Jack's Guns" stamped under the grips on the frame.

Makes me really want to make moves to start building a 58 3" custom jobber.

Gah I really need a 58 in my life.
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Instead of altering a already made gun, why not buy the one in your post?
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$$$

Ideally I would get into a well carried shooter grade piece on the cheap if I was to do a snubby round butt conversion. I don't really have the resources to get into a custom collector piece, unfortunately. Wish I did, because the one I'm watching is incredible.

There's a guy here with a 58 project gun for sale I've been trying to get to come up off the frame and cylinder but understandably he doesn't want to split up the components. His is a 44 conversion.
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Well considering what a shooter grade model 58 then the custom pistolsmith work would charge how much would you figure you'd spend on something like this? My guess is pretty expensive no matter how you slice it? And ruin a collector handgun to boot? My opinion of course.
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Well considering what a shooter grade model 58 then the custom pistolsmith work would charge how much would you figure you'd spend on something like this? My guess is pretty expensive no matter how you slice it? And ruin a collector handgun to boot? My opinion of course.
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Ruin? Quite the strong opinion!

I would never molest an S-prefix like that. The N prefix would be the one for the custom work.

I'd imagine I would have less in the custom snubby than I would have in a LNIB S prefix. Not like it matters what's spent.
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The last two S&Ws on my wife and mine's bucket list are a 581 and a 58. we've already got a 586 and a 57. And more.

I bought the 57 about eight years ago for $500. I saw it while working in a town 50 miles from home. It was immaculate, not unfired but close to it. I quit working, drove to my bank, got cash, drove 50 miles back to the pawn shop, and plopped over the cash.

I ordered .41 brass online the same day. The town I where I bought the gun had a three-day waiting limit (stupid jerk local mayor) so I ended up reloading .41 ammo before I took possession of the gun.

We are well-to-do now, so we can buy pretty much anything we want. It's weird having money, after being lower middle class for so long. I don't even have to hand load anymore. Just weird.

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I was headed out on my ATV a couple of weeks ago and was going to do some shooting with my 58.

I was probably going to kill some rocks or something.

And then my ATV developed a problem so I never made it.

Got the ATV fixed yesterday, its supposed to snow today so one day next week I'll attempt it again.
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My latest 58 was wearing a set of KB magnas when I stumbled across a set of original 58 grips for sale here on the forum. It turns out the seller was only a couple hours away and the gun now looks like it did the day it left the factory. I;ll save the KB grips for another N frame.
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I lost a pretty brutal bidding war on a SUPER nice SFPD Model 58 today. I sure hope it was one of you too stubborn to let me win! I had been looking for one for 3 years and this is the only one I've ever seen for sale. It even had a Tgrip on it with original diamond PC magnas I suspect it may be a first year gun.

Still in the market... hopefully I find another one and hopefully it doesn't take 3 more years!

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I was headed out on my ATV a couple of weeks ago and was going to do some shooting with my 58.

I was probably going to kill some rocks or something.

And then my ATV developed a problem so I never made it.

Got the ATV fixed yesterday, its supposed to snow today so one day next week I'll attempt it again.
Rubi, if you'd done things proper, you would have shot the ATV with the 58 just like a horse with a broken leg. Oats or petrol, it was still failed transportation.
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Rubi, if you'd done things proper, you would have shot the ATV with the 58 just like a horse with a broken leg. Oats or petrol, it was still failed transportation.
LOL I like it too much.
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Rubi, if you'd done things proper, you would have shot the ATV with the 58 just like a horse with a broken leg. Oats or petrol, it was still failed transportation.
Many, many years ago I worked night shift patrol at my PD. It was summertime and I had the car windows open. I heard a gunshot. I soon located the source; there a broken-down car on US 11 and a man standing next to it. As I rolled up, I recognized the man as being a fellow police officer. His car had broken down, so he got out and shot it.

He was a strange bird indeed!
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Many, many years ago I worked night shift patrol at my PD. It was summertime and I had the car windows open. I heard a gunshot. I soon located the source; there a broken-down car on US 11 and a man standing next to it. As I rolled up, I recognized the man as being a fellow police officer. His car had broken down, so he got out and shot it.

He was a strange bird indeed!

...I was going to ask if he had been drinking, but if you are a "strange bird" you don't have to be drinking to do strange and stupid things...

Saw that custom 58 referred to above...really a nice looking gun... There is also still a Mag-Na-Port Custom on GB but the guy just wants stupid money for it...been for sale for several years...

Have not seen a lot of 58s for sale lately....one LNIB one went for well up into the teens....glad I have my two...

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Many, many years ago I worked night shift patrol at my PD. It was summertime and I had the car windows open. I heard a gunshot. I soon located the source; there a broken-down car on US 11 and a man standing next to it. As I rolled up, I recognized the man as being a fellow police officer. His car had broken down, so he got out and shot it.

He was a strange bird indeed!
Gil,

I have had days like that.....some cars/trucks just get you hackles up over and over until you have to just do something

There is another notorious car shooter among us, but he shot a Bronco in the line of duty
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So how much are M58s going for these days??

Mine's from 1978. No, its not for sale.
I like it too much. And its really fun to pull the trigger.
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I lost a pretty brutal bidding war on a SUPER nice SFPD Model 58 today. I sure hope it was one of you too stubborn to let me win! I had been looking for one for 3 years and this is the only one I've ever seen for sale. It even had a Tgrip on it with original diamond PC magnas I suspect it may be a first year gun.

Still in the market... hopefully I find another one and hopefully it doesn't take 3 more years!

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Since auction has ended, can you share specifics of the sale; price, condition, pics, etc?
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I saw that SFPD Model 58 and I knew it was going to go for significant money. I also wonder what it ended up at ?
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The SFPD gun went for 1325 plus 25 shipping. I personally valued the gun at 1300-1500 but wanted to stand firm with my low end valuation. My final bid was 1300. Kinda made me sick to let it go. My consolation prize to myself was a very nice 1972 Model 51 kit gun in its original box with original grips today that I found locally at a very nice price

Gun was at 835 for the last day or so of the auction. Thought I was going to get a killer deal on it because there was no action the last day. Little did I know that was the calm before the storm, and there was at least one other person just as interested as me.

At the 15 minute warning, I put in a high bid at 900 to start the final stretch bidding and was instantly outbid by the current high bidder's autobid. It was now at 905. I instantly put in a second high bid at 1000 and was the current high bidder for a very short time, until I was outbid by the eventual winner, who was a new bidder trying to scoop it up at the end just like me. He bid very soon after I became high bidder at 1000 and was then new current high bidder at 1025. We traded bids for a while there.

I bid it all the way to 1300 before I threw in the towel. I would be very interested to know exactly how high his maximum bid was. I thought about one last bid just for kicks, but decided that if I wasn't willing to go to 1400 then it would be silly to go to 1350. After bidding it up 400 and this guy wasn't waivering, I didn't want to overpay so I bailed.

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The SFPD gun went for 1325 plus 25 shipping. I personally valued the gun at 1300-1500 but wanted to stand firm with my low end valuation. My final bid was 1300. Kinda made me sick to let it go. My consolation prize to myself was a very nice 1972 Model 51 kit gun in its original box with original grips today that I found locally at a very nice price

Gun was at 835 for the last day or so of the auction. Thought I was going to get a killer deal on it because there was no action the last day. Little did I know that was the calm before the storm, and there was at least one other person just as interested as me.

At the 15 minute warning, I put in a high bid at 900 to start the final stretch bidding and was instantly outbid by the current high bidder's autobid. It was now at 905. I instantly put in a second high bid at 1000 and was the current high bidder for a very short time, until I was outbid by the eventual winner, who was a new bidder trying to scoop it up at the end just like me. He bid very soon after I became high bidder at 1000 and was then new current high bidder at 1025. We traded bids for a while there.

I bid it all the way to 1300 before I threw in the towel. I would be very interested to know exactly how high his maximum bid was. I thought about one last bid just for kicks, but decided that if I wasn't willing to go to 1400 then it would be silly to go to 1350. After bidding it up 400 and this guy wasn't waivering, I didn't want to overpay so I bailed.

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That is a really nice example. The Tyler T probably adds $50 to the cost.

There are more model 58's out there....keep you eyes open....I have been really luck a few times and bought some really neat ones.

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Not to hijack but since I'm not familiar with SFPD M58's and without the serial number listed, approximately what year is that 58?
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Not to hijack but since I'm not familiar with SFPD M58's and without the serial number listed, approximately what year is that 58?
My guess would be 1964-66, but I'm not an expert and serial number was never disclosed to me by the seller. He didn't have access to the gun until after the auction ended at the time I got in touch with him.

IMO there is a high probability it is a first-year gun. The guy got a good deal at 1325 IMO, I just had no intention of spending more than 1300 on it.
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Jack,

Without the serial number, it is just a guessing game.

If the stocks are matching, then it is before 1968 and after the introduction of the 41 Magnum in 1964.
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Without the serial number, it is just a guessing game.

If the stocks are matching, then it is before 1968 and after the introduction of the 41 Magnum in 1964.
I have no reason except a hunch to believe it couldn't possibly be a 1967 or 1968. It very well could be anywhere between 64 and 68.
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That is a really nice example. The Tyler T probably adds $50 to the cost.

There are more model 58's out there....keep you eyes open....I have been really luck a few times and bought some really neat ones.

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I sure hope I find one just like it some day. It's an absolutely stellar example with nice honest wear, just like I prefer on my revolvers (I shoot all my guns).

For now it's the one that got away.
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Got this one a few years back. Supposedly unfired outside of the three factory test shots. The front of the cylinder looks like this is the case. I need to give this one a try! Waiting on a new holster for all of my 4" N-Frames.

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Does this make me an official member of the unofficial M58 club?
Baby got new shoes and T-grip thanks to Pete and Russ.
No agency/dept. markings but retired Okla Highway Patrol trooper bought new in 1969 time frame.
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Ammo came with gun. Haven’t heard of this brand but oughta get job done.

Crowding my shots and started stringing vertically. Standing offhand DA.

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Older pic of my M58, N2733XX. It wears a Tyler T-grip now.

Great shooter. I reload extensively for it.
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Does this make me an official member of the unofficial M58 club?
Baby got new shoes and T-grip thanks to Pete and Russ.
No agency/dept. markings but retired Okla Highway Patrol trooper bought new in 1969 time frame.
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Ammo came with gun. Haven’t heard of this brand but oughta get job done.

Crowding my shots and started stringing vertically. Standing offhand DA.

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I have never seen that brand of ammo, but 1400 FPS makes me feel all warm & fuzzy
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Just bought this beauty, my first .41 Magnum, Model 58 no dash, in February, complete with matching box, papers and original sales receipt.
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ugh I should have kept bidding on that SFPD gun
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Just bought this beauty, my first .41 Magnum, Model 58 no dash, in February, complete with matching box, papers and original sales receipt.
Looks like nary a turn line.....you shall have to remedy that toot-sweet

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Picked up a gently used Model 58 with box, docs and some tools. Then fitted it with some Keith Brown Pre-War style Magnas and a Tyler T......
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That is a VERY nice find!

The Kieth Brown stocks look right at home. Maybe he will make a set of pre-war PC for me
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been shootin that sfpd since 1972 and its starting to show some wear. so i got my third one a couple months ago. fixed sight n frame just fits me really good. bought a model 13 recently, but the fit ain't the same. i've been thinking about a 4" heavy duty now.
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