Dude that 58 and 10-8 together... Man that's like Marilyn Monroe and Audrey Hepburn. SEXY!!!

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There is another member here...Jellybean, if I recall correctly....that was developing some home-brewed shot shells. He sent me a recipe, but I have just not had the free time to make some up. The guys that work on the farm have seen a few big rattlers this year, and I keep thinking that I am going to run into one, so I have been toting around my CS1 instead of my 58 (the horrors ) ....no snakes yet, other than a itty bitty garter snake, whom I relocated to the wood pile.

I have been reloading for the 41 for a few years now and have stopped hunting for the ammo. Although, my local pusher now has 3 or 4 different varieties of 41 for sale year round, and Bass Pro even had 2 different loads on my last visit.

NE, enjoy your honorary membership here, and if you're in my neck of the woods, you are welcome to make a range trip to rediscover the 58's with a loaner from my stash

Thanks for the story.

I really enjoy the tales of days gone by from the days where wheelguns ruled the streets. Anyone else care to share?

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Not so grasshopper, .41 Magnum is .41.

KO

SAFireman

Thanks for the offer. Will do.

If they would have made a Mod 58 in 44 Mag I would still have a couple.

It is just easier for me to have as few as calibres as possible.

Again, nothing wrong with a 41 Mag.

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Still in 10mm range

.40 cal = 10.16
.410 = 10.414

Intent was to show history repeats..

And a .38 Special is .38? Nope but still called a .38

TY Cricket

Dump,

That Classic looks pretty well finished out....does it have a really deep blue like the older Smiths?

And..it looks like it has a red ramp, or was that your doing?

I also noticed that it has a screw at the top of the sideplate....does it have 5 total screws? I wonder what they were thinking...the original 58's were 3 screw versions....anyone have an idea why?

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The finish is glossy, but not like the older ones. I don't know what S&W was thinking with the extra screw? And why add the lock if it's a "classic"?

The orange is nail polish. And it's a great shooter.

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Does it have the 4th screw in front of the trigger guard?

I can't answer the question as to the lock....it seems a sore subject around these parts, but I would guess it was put there to allow those guns to be sold in 'less than gun-friendly' states? Maybe it is just as well.....some unseemly characters might try to pass off the Classic lines for the real deal. As long as she works good for you, then don't let it bother you. Is the action pretty smooth, or do you need to pull it apart and go through it?


Looks good anyhow....and I am glad to see another 41 mag out on the streets

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No.

The action isn't real smooth, but the lock-up and timing are excellent. IMO, more so than on my older N frames.

I can't think of a State that requires a built in lock. I think it's just all liability concerns.

Someone who makes decission over at S&W just doesn't get it from a purist point of veiw.

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While looking for something else I came across the original

Parts List*Instructions for Use*Maintenance*Specifications Sheet for my Model 58.

What I didn't know was the correct name/model number for the revolver. I did not that S&W calls the gun the .41 Military and Police Revolver Model No. 58.

Someday maybe I will learn enough about S&Ws to maintain a lucid conversation with someone about them!

This is wonderful to find a model 58 club. For the longest time I thought we were on the endangered species list we can unite and celebrate our cause.

My model 58 is # S327595 does anyone know what year it was made in ? I have had it so long I don't remember when I got it.

The best thing I have found it good for is providing a great sense of well being at night. It gives me comfort to know its there on the night stand in case I need it.

Thanks gary

The number you provided sounds like an assembly #. The serial # should be on the bottom of the grip frame and should start with an S or N.

The first one was made in 1964 I believe.


Charlie

Charlie Sorry about that . The correct number is S327595 . Been a member of the club less than an hour and allready learned where the SN is located.

cprhr Please tell me about the grips. What kind of wood and where can I get some for my 58 ?

gwpercle

should be end of 1975 ship date. One of the last S serial #'s before smith went to the N #'s.


Charlie

Sadly, I don't own a 58! Just never came across one. But, I do own three 57s and a 657. An 8&3/8" and two 6" 57s and a 4" 657. All four have fine factory triggers and are extremely accurate with my reloads, both cast and jacketed. I can't say enough good things about the .41 Magnum!
Dick

Dick,

We can have you as an honorary member....it seems that you have been bitten by the 41 bug....you also have one of the more rare 4" 657's that are seldom seen. Please, post a photo or two of your collection. Those 6" model 57's are supposed to be scary accurate too

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Thanks, SAFireman!
I'm happy to accept your offer! Please excuse the poor pics. I'll try to replace these three with a group shot of all four! Also, I plan on having my favorite dealer try to find me a 58 so I'll be legal!
Dick

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An updated photo of my 57s! Now I need a 58!
I should add that my son has laid claim to the 57-1!
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Dick,

You must have done a fine job raising your son....he did pick a very nice revolver out of that group.

Thanks for sharing the photos.

If you are wanting a 58, you can do as I did, and post a 'WTB - want to buy' ad here on the forum (classifieds). Both of mine came as a result of the generosity and helpfulness of the members here....this is undoubtedly the best firearms forum on the WWW.

Best luck in your search.

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Thanks, SAFireman!
I agree about this forum! Can't beat it!
I have a dealer friend that specializes in S&W revolvers. I'll see what he can do and then, maybe, post a WTB.
Thanks, again, Dick

...and then you sold it and now 35 YEARS later want to be a Cult Member....well at least your heart is in the right place.... You could at least try to talk Sebago Sam out of his converted 58...that way you could at least say you have a 58 and not adding a caliber to your inventory....

For those of you looking for a 58, Hoffman's Gun Center in Newington, Ct. has three 58-1s in blue and one nickel that they only want $599.99 for...that is over $100 under wholesale...

Bob

Well let me take a lood and the Mod 58 two different ways.
First from my perspective as a 44 Mag shooter. My first Centerfire rifle was a Ruger 44 Mag. So when I wanted a DA revolver, my first DA revolver was a 44 Mag S&W. I used it for many years, and when I graduated the police Academy, my first Duty gun was a 4" S&W 44 Mag.

IF S&W had made the Mod 58 in 44 mag I would have definately had one or two of them...

Now early in my carear I bought the Mod 58 mentioned above.
IT was an excellent revolver, shot great, very accurate. The 41 "Police loads" 210 SWC" at around 950fps very controlable, the 210 Jacketed full power loads were controlable for me as I has shot a lot of full power 44 Mag loads and that is what I carried on duty.
Baised on its own ballistics the 41 Mag is a great cartridge. Some Police Depts adopted it. Amarillo, San Francisco, I think maybe San Antonio, and a few others.

I know Evan Marshall in Detroit carried one of them for a while.
And I know some Chicago Cops carreid them as "No2's. Also a Secret Service Agent on a certain Presidental detail carried 2 of them at all times.

I carried mine as a foul weather gun, and off duty as well.
I had 2 hammers fitted to it, one was a target hammer, I was used to them on my 44's, the other had the spur ground off. MyMod 58 was a slock gun, with a good action job and a great shooter.

The only problem for ME with the Mod 58 is that it was in 41 Mag.

Nothing wrong with the 41 Mag, but I was set up for the 44 Mag. I load on a Star Progressive Loader, cast and size my own bullets, have beaucoup brass, speed loaders, and a rifle for the 44 Mag, etc.

So for me the "problem" with a 41 Mag, was mostly Logistics.

If I had never had the 44 Mag rifle, and I had bought a 41 Mag first, then I would be a wayward soul like Superman...

For those of you that do not know Bob [Super Man] was using the 38 Super, way way back in the day, a long long time, before the IPSC elite ever discovered it. Like wise he used the 41 Mag from the start.

We go back many years, and as I am a 44 Mag, and a 1911 45 ACP kind of guy I like to to tease him about the 38 Super, and the 41 Magnum.

Both are excellent calibres.

I still think S&W made a mistake not making the Mod 58 back in the day, in 44 Mag, 45 ACP/AR, and 45 Colt, too.

I should at least qualify as an Honorary Member, of the Mod 58 Club...

I do not want to own a "Modified" Mod 58. That would be a travesty.

George Nonte offered to sell me his Modifed Mod 58, he changed to 45 "Long Colt". He had written some magazine articals about it.
I turned him down, but I did buy the Pachmayer grips off of it for $5.00.
They were the first Pachmayer grips I had ever handled.
I used them on my duty gun for several years.

I vote him in...anyone who used a double rifle to shoot a murderous big ape at 6 feet should be allowed in, M 58 or not..
I think he would be the keynote speaker at the next meeting as well...

I vote with the Sheriff...Let him in!

On another thread I found a link to this Model 58 by Austin Behlert Behlert 58

It is a chopped down 58....now I know how much certain individuals here feel about 'modified from original configuration' guns, but this one is pretty cool ....and since it is a Model 58...

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NICE! I'd love to see a 3in round butt 58 as a limited production item. Better yet in stainless , a '658' if you will. C'mon Lew Horton's!

Sheriff...I think NE would make a great Keynote speaker...how can I vote against a 30+ year friend...

I saw another of Belhert's shortened 58s a while back. The front lug had not been modified so the barrel was probably 3/8" longer than the one pictured above. A 3" round butt 658 would be great...

I am surprised that Smith just hasn't come out with a 4" fixed sight 629...after all they have a 3" round butt...

Bob

I agree, a round butt 3" 658 would be an immediate purchase for me...those Belhert's are awesome as well....

Seconded and Moved... mail him the Membership card and bill for the dues!....

I was always intrigued by the Nonte and Behlert chop jobs, but could never justify buying another 58 to customize.

My ol buddy and I have shared too many miles, scars, and adventures for me to change a thing on it.

Gentlemen, thanks for the votes.

Also remember many of these Modified Mod 58's were done back when the Mod 58 was a standard production item.

I must say I really like the way that Behlert Mod 58 looks and I bet she handles sweet.

Also I actually shot the Gorilla with a 458 Win Bolt rifle. I was wishing for my double thats for sure.

I am sure you were wishing for a double, I would have been....

Wishing for my double, yes I was. He charged me from 12 yards, I shot him in the head at 6 yards.

The bolt gun, with a little luck,[and a lot of practice], well handled, saved my life, no doubt.

A 6 yard head shot at a gorrillian with a 458 must've been horrifyingly graphic and relieving all at once in a hurry... couldn't imagine one storming towards me! Welcome to the '58 club and hope you get one soon pard :->

With this post I am officially applying for membership to "The Unofficial 58 Club". I picked it up the week after Christmas. It came with numbered diamond magnas. I bought the stags at a gun show years ago, $35 if I remember correctly. Thinking about adding some medallions. What do you think? Serial # is S2575xx. Wish I could learn how to post large pictures like you guys.


Login to a private Photobucket.com album

Your Photobucket album is private and requires a password.

How about now?

http://s1191.photobucket.com/albums/...ka/Model%2058/

Or maybe now? I feel so inadequate.

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Still can't get in?

I got it. Nice looking 58. Blued finish looks great and I like stags.


Charlie

I got in, too! Nice gun! Love those stocks!
Dick

Here is your photo...nice looking! If you want I can email you on how to do it.



LazyKB's model 58!

That gun should get a feller membership anyplace he wants it.

Beautiful.

Please do, I can't seem to get past computer 101.

Thanks for the compliments. I am pretty excited about getting this one to the range.

Sir, with your posted photos, your membership has been approved and you will be sent your lapel pin in due time.

That is one fine looking 58. I like those stags just the way they are. If you want some with medallions, hit up Executioner. He can make them any way you want. Just be careful asking for 'extra bark', as they can be hard on the hands with stout loads.

Congrats, and welcome

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Mine. A shooter for sure. Looking for another one.



rayb

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OK, I would like to apply for membership in the "unofficial" club. I do not have the best pics yet, but I am working on it. Here is just a quick shot of my NEW TO ME M58, shipped in 1973