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After pining for one for over 40 years, I just acquired this Model 58 on Friday! Per its serial number (N178669), I believe it was manufactured in 1973.
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I haven't shot any factory loads out of my M58 yet. The two handloads I use (5.0 grains of Clays & 8.0 grains of Unique) under a Berry's 210 grain plated, shoot very well and to POA, when I do my part.
I always suggest folks get dies for their .41's if they already load for other pistol calibers. It is a very satisfying cartridge to load for.
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Next load you should try is 17.5gr of 2400 under a 215gr Hard cast Keith LSWC.This load will open your eyes to the true power of the .41 mag .
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Next load you should try is 17.5gr of 2400 under a 215gr Hard cast Keith LSWC.This load will open your eyes to the true power of the .41 mag .
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I'm using 17.5 grains of 2400 under a home cast 225 grain Keith SWC. That is out of my 657 Classic Hunter and my Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley Hunter. I haven't shot it from my M58 yet. It's a very nice load.
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After pining for one for over 40 years, I just acquired this Model 58 on Friday! Per its serial number (N178669), I believe it was manufactured in 1973.
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Very nice M58! Welcome to the club!
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You are one step ahead of me Rickster,Try a few out of the M58 its a good time.
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O5CarbonDRZ,
I have to get some loaded up. Probably this week. I suspect they will be fun out of the 58, haha.
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Very nice M58! Welcome to the club!
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Thanks, Rick!
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...have not seen a 58 for sale in a gun shop anywhere in a long time... I did happen to see several now up for sale on GunBroker for $0.01 starting bids...really nice guns and I think two of them are 60s vintage S-prefix guns...
I'm just staying with my two for now...and did just get a couple of IWB holsters that I'll try and post pics of...
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Got home yesterday and the nylon IWB holster was in. Company name is Skyball Mountain Holster Company and sell over on ebay...
Seems like a quality made in the USA product. Has a heavy duty belt clip that can be used to wear the holster IS or OS the waistband. There is also a Velcroed on thumbsnap for OTW use but I removed it as it isn't needed for ITB carry.
Tried it on last night with a Mountain Gun and the holster held the gun at just the right height. I carry most of my guns concealed behind the left hip butt forward... Not the fastest position but very comfortable, secure and with the butt forward doesn't print near as much as a conventional holster.
For $18.00 delivered I think it was a bargain...going to order a few more...
Will try and post some pics of the holster with the custom 58...
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Hi all,
Here is my submission to the unofficial 58 club.
Just picked this one up at a local gun show this weekend.
Traded a plastic XD9 and $300 for it. Put it in a thread of its own and had a forum member say it needed to be added over here.
It is in pretty decent shape with original box and numbers matching stocks.
Enough rambling ...... here's a few pictures.
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Very nice Twig! You are going to love it. Welcome to the club!
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Hi all,
Here is my submission to the unofficial 58 club.
Just picked this one up at a local gun show this weekend.
Traded a plastic XD9 and $300 for it. Put it in a thread of its own and had a forum member say it needed to be added over here.
It is in pretty decent shape with original box and numbers matching stocks.
Enough rambling ...... here's a few pictures.
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Twig,
Any day that you can trade plastic for steel is a good day. Welcome to the club!
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A fantastic find! Congratulations!
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Hi all,
Here is my submission to the unofficial 58 club.
Just picked this one up at a local gun show this weekend.
Traded a plastic XD9 and $300 for it. Put it in a thread of its own and had a forum member say it needed to be added over here.
It is in pretty decent shape with original box and numbers matching stocks.
Enough rambling ...... here's a few pictures.
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Hi all,
Here is my submission to the unofficial 58 club.
Just picked this one up at a local gun show this weekend.
Traded a plastic XD9 and $300 for it. Put it in a thread of its own and had a forum member say it needed to be added over here.
It is in pretty decent shape with original box and numbers matching stocks.
Enough rambling ...... here's a few pictures.
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What a good looking 58! Congrats!
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I just joined the forum and the 58 club a short time ago. The 58 was picked up local from a classified. First pic is how I received the gun the second is with a flawless set of PC's acquired from the forum ads, thanks to Beagleye. I like guns that are off the beaten path, unique, and unorthodox. The 58 fit the bill perfectly.
http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4adb85ab.jpg
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Very nice Chukar! Welcome to the club!
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Ok, all this talk about the M58s that you all have forced me to pull out my sales receipts.
I had one back in March of '66. Serial # S259XXX.
They were relatively new at the time and ammo was difficult to find. The Rem. 210 gr. LSWC was easier to get, also easier on the shooter than the 210 gr. JSP.
I sold it off a couple of years later. I've always thought about another one but haven't done anything more than think about it.
I think my Brother up in NH still has one.
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JimC,
My M58 purchase is much more recent than that. I have had .41 Mags for a while though. I love the caliber. Since purchasing my M58, I just really enjoy it. It handles very well for me and shoots like a dream. There is just something about the way it looks too....
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Got some new Kim Ahrends Retro Combat cordia wood grips for my Model 58.
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I too recently joined the M58 club. Photos of my gun are located in another thread I started when I got the gun.
I reloaded some bullets for this gun, but I haven't gotten it to the range yet. I used AutoComp powder and 215 LSWC bullets. The powder charge is a middle of the road charge. I will load a few full strength loads after the first range visit. I rarely load full strength loads for any of my handguns. I do not need to push a bullet to it's max when shooting holes in paper at 15 yards.
After buying my first M58, I can now understand the sub culture love for this weapon. They are pretty darn sweet.
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Welcome to the club TEXVET!
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XTrooper,
Very nice! I have a set of Ahrends Tactical, non-finger groove grips in Moradillo wood on mine. I really like them.
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Beautiful, Rick! That pair of grips has really nice grain.
Coincidentally, I have the same Galco D.A.O. holster. I use it when I'm in the field.
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Very nice! I have a set of Ahrends Tactical, non-finger groove grips in Moradillo wood on mine. I really like them.
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Beautiful, Rick! That pair of grips has really nice grain.
Coincidentally, I have the same Galco D.A.O. holster. I use it when I'm in the field.
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Is the back strap open covered on these grips?
I like the back strap open myself.
They look great.
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Is the back strap open covered on these grips?
I like the back strap open myself.
They look great.
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Steve,
The back strap is open. I like the grips a lot.
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Hi, Steve. All Ahrends grips have an open backstrap which is one of the many reasons I prefer them.
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Steve...whose holster is that...an EPS?? Goes nice with the gun...
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Steve...whose holster is that...an EPS?? Goes nice with the gun...
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I wish I could tell you, Bob. It's vintage and unmarked.
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Requesting admission to the Club
Thanks to a Christmas Eve post by a forum member (lugnut08) I struck a deal on this handsome 1976 Model 58 in nickle.
Serial number N271XXX, which places it around 1976. No box or paperwork...but I am not caring one bit in the least.
This is a great Christmas....
I just got home with it..so just a quick wipe down, a detailed cleaning after tomorrows firing session and another photo op.
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Outstanding! Congratulations, oldafsp!
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I installed a new set of s&w finger groove grips on my new s&w m58. I hope it's ok to change the grips with the s&w God's.
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Very nice and welcome to the club!
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I installed a new set of s&w finger groove grips on my new s&w m58. I hope it's ok to change the grips with the s&w God's.
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The only time my Model 58 wears its PC Magna grips is during photo sessions!
Those service stocks were just fine for the 6"-barreled Model 10 I carried for half my police career, but not so much on a revolver chambered in .41 Magnum. I only had to shoot the first six rounds out of my Model 58 to decide it needed a new set of grips before it went to work.
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Next load you should try is 17.5gr of 2400 under a 215gr Hard cast Keith LSWC.This load will open your eyes to the true power of the .41 mag .
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Or you could try 19.0gr of 2400 under a H&G #258 220gr bullet, this is the bullet that Keith designed for the .41 mag. It's a truly enlighting experience from my Ruger BH.
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One of my favorite loads for my M58 is 8.0 grains of Unique under a Berry's 210 grain plated. Shoots to point of aim and is just an accurate load.
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That is great to hear, compadre! Glad you had a positive experience with your Model 58!
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I installed a new set of s&w finger groove grips on my new s&w m58. I hope it's ok to change the grips with the s&w God's.
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Bill,
I can not imagine that anyone would fault you for swapping the stocks for a shooting session. Do be sure to save those PC magnas as they are hard to replace (especially the diamond variant).
My carry gun (mod 58) wears S&W Combat stocks (finger groove, square butt), and I really appreciate the way that they distribute the recoil. My nickle 58 still wears magna stocks, albeit with a Tyler grip adapter.
Happy shooting!
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....I wonder how a 3" round butt 58 would shoot...something like a Model 10 or 65 3" on steroids....in stainless it would really be a great carry gun.
Speaking of grips...have been having a hard time finding something that really fits right for DA and SA shooting on n N-frame gun. Have these custom grips on the 58 that feel real good but are just a little big around...
Have had both rubber and wood Hogue grips and they feel pretty good but the last finger groove isn't in quite the right place.
Have a set of Herretts I believe Shooting Masters on a 4" 57 that feel good and handle well...anyone ever try a set of their Detective grips?
Still looking for the right all-around grips for an N-frame...
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Those Herretts sure look nice, Bob!
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New member with 58
Hi everyone. I've lurked here for a while, and now that I just purchased a Smith&Wesson model 58, I decided to join the forums and post in this thread.
I'm new to Smith & Wesson, but not to firearms. This model 58 is my first Smith & Wesson.
I was given the 'green light' from the Mrs. for a handgun purchase, so I decided I'd look around some local shops to see what was available.
I love revolvers. Nothing against autoloaders, but I love the old school feel of steal wheel guns. I have a Ruger SP101 in .357mag that I carry, and I wanted a Big Bore revolver with a '4' in the caliber.
I was very lucky and I found a Smith &Wesson model 58 (.41 magnum) in very good to excellent condition sitting in a local gun shop. It has the pinned barrel and recessed chambers, in blued finish. Lock up was tight (pretty much ZERO end shake as far as I could tell), good timing, and a super clean bore. It really doesn't look like it's seen many rounds at all. (the guy at the counter said an old retired patrolman sold it to them).
I'm very excited for this new purchase. I'm even going to carry this hand cannon in an OWB pancake holster that I ordered.
First range impressions: Holy Moly!! This is the most fun I've ever had shooting. I've shot all kinds of handguns before, but this Model 58 in 41 mag is just something unique in its own right.
Recoil was not sharp, but it was a very strong push. I definitely have to concentrate on each shot. Not so much wrist breaking muzzle rise, more of a strong push straight back (I do take a high grip). I'd say .41 mag is much closer (in recoil and noise) to .44 mag than it is to .357 mag.
This is the LOUDEST gun I've ever shot. The range was crowded, and after the first cylinder, two people immediately came over to my booth and asked what the heck is that! They thought it was .44, and They never even heard of .41 mag.
The model 58 performed flawlessly. No misfires, cases ejected perfectly. Primers all had deep dimples. The Smith trigger is a lot different from my Ruger SP101, whereas it doesn't stack as abruptly...it's more a smooth pull all the way to hammer drop.
Here's a photo of one of the targets: I'm no expert shooter, but I got some decent groups (and a few flyers as I learned more about the gun) at 10-12 yards. Used Remington 210 JSP
This is by far my favorite firearm, and I could not be happier to own this great piece of history that happens to also be a great personal defense tool.
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Hi everyone. I've lurked here for a while, and now that I just purchased a Smith&Wesson model 58, I decided to join the forums and post in this thread.
I'm new to Smith & Wesson, but not to firearms. This model 58 is my first Smith & Wesson.
I was given the 'green light' from the Mrs. for a handgun purchase, so I decided I'd look around some local shops to see what was available.
I love revolvers. Nothing against autoloaders, but I love the old school feel of steal wheel guns. I have a Ruger SP101 in .357mag that I carry, and I wanted a Big Bore revolver with a '4' in the caliber.
I was very lucky and I found a Smith &Wesson model 58 (.41 magnum) in very good to excellent condition sitting in a local gun shop. It has the pinned barrel and recessed chambers, in blued finish. Lock up was tight (pretty much ZERO end shake as far as I could tell), good timing, and a super clean bore. It really doesn't look like it's seen many rounds at all. (the guy at the counter said an old retired patrolman sold it to them).
I'm very excited for this new purchase. I'm even going to carry this hand cannon in an OWB pancake holster that I ordered.
First range impressions: Holy Moly!! This is the most fun I've ever had shooting. I've shot all kinds of handguns before, but this Model 58 in 41 mag is just something unique in its own right.
Recoil was not sharp, but it was a very strong push. I definitely have to concentrate on each shot. Not so much wrist breaking muzzle rise, more of a strong push straight back (I do take a high grip). I'd say .41 mag is much closer (in recoil and noise) to .44 mag than it is to .357 mag.
This is the LOUDEST gun I've ever shot. The range was crowded, and after the first cylinder, two people immediately came over to my booth and asked what the heck is that! They thought it was .44, and They never even heard of .41 mag.
The model 58 performed flawlessly. No misfires, cases ejected perfectly. Primers all had deep dimples. The Smith trigger is a lot different from my Ruger SP101, whereas it doesn't stack as abruptly...it's more a smooth pull all the way to hammer drop.
Here's a photo of one of the targets: I'm no expert shooter, but I got some decent groups (and a few flyers as I learned more about the gun) at 10-12 yards. Used Remington 210 JSP
This is by far my favorite firearm, and I could not be happier to own this great piece of history that happens to also be a great personal defense tool.
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Welcome from Texas
What an entrance you made too....most folks don't start out with a Model 58.
Those Remington loads are pretty stout, I use them I my Marlin carbine as well as my 58.
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Welcome to the club! I can tell you already love your M58. They are great handguns!
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Hi everyone. I've lurked here for a while, and now that I just purchased a Smith&Wesson model 58, I decided to join the forums and post in this thread.
I'm new to Smith & Wesson, but not to firearms. This model 58 is my first Smith & Wesson.
I was given the 'green light' from the Mrs. for a handgun purchase, so I decided I'd look around some local shops to see what was available.
I love revolvers. Nothing against autoloaders, but I love the old school feel of steal wheel guns. I have a Ruger SP101 in .357mag that I carry, and I wanted a Big Bore revolver with a '4' in the caliber.
I was very lucky and I found a Smith &Wesson model 58 (.41 magnum) in very good to excellent condition sitting in a local gun shop. It has the pinned barrel and recessed chambers, in blued finish. Lock up was tight (pretty much ZERO end shake as far as I could tell), good timing, and a super clean bore. It really doesn't look like it's seen many rounds at all. (the guy at the counter said an old retired patrolman sold it to them).
I'm very excited for this new purchase. I'm even going to carry this hand cannon in an OWB pancake holster that I ordered.
First range impressions: Holy Moly!! This is the most fun I've ever had shooting. I've shot all kinds of handguns before, but this Model 58 in 41 mag is just something unique in its own right.
Recoil was not sharp, but it was a very strong push. I definitely have to concentrate on each shot. Not so much wrist breaking muzzle rise, more of a strong push straight back (I do take a high grip). I'd say .41 mag is much closer (in recoil and noise) to .44 mag than it is to .357 mag.
This is the LOUDEST gun I've ever shot. The range was crowded, and after the first cylinder, two people immediately came over to my booth and asked what the heck is that! They thought it was .44, and They never even heard of .41 mag.
The model 58 performed flawlessly. No misfires, cases ejected perfectly. Primers all had deep dimples. The Smith trigger is a lot different from my Ruger SP101, whereas it doesn't stack as abruptly...it's more a smooth pull all the way to hammer drop.
Here's a photo of one of the targets: I'm no expert shooter, but I got some decent groups (and a few flyers as I learned more about the gun) at 10-12 yards. Used Remington 210 JSP
This is by far my favorite firearm, and I could not be happier to own this great piece of history that happens to also be a great personal defense tool.
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Welcome from Texas
What an entrance you made too....most folks don't start out with a Model 58.
Those Remington loads are pretty stout, I use them I my Marlin carbine as well as my 58.
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Thanks for the warm welcome. Pennsylvania here.
I know a bit about .357 mag loads, but I'm still learning about .41 mag. The Remington 210 JSP were what the gun store had in bulk, so I took those. Lots of noise, pretty good fire out the muzzle. Heck of a good time. Like I said, it seemed like everyone stopped what they were doing at the indoor range after I set these off (nobody was shooting magnums of any kind; mostly 9mm, 45acp, and some 22lr.)
I don't hand load, but it looks like I'll have to start doing so. I knew the price of .41 mag is high going into it. More like OBSCENE prices.
I look forward to many years of fun (and security) from this great Smith & Wesson.
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let make it a offical club , own one and have early well worn model 58 on the way
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I look forward to many years of fun (and security) from this great Smith & Wesson.
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And you will not be dissapointed. Welcome to the club.
The 58's combat accuracy leaves nothing to be desired.As you found out...
Congrats on a fine selection.
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howdy , were there any PD that isued the model 58 ??
especially in the ealry per 1969 era ??
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And you will not be dissapointed. Welcome to the club.
The 58's combat accuracy leaves nothing to be desired.As you found out...
Congrats on a fine selection.
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Thanks!
I was pleasantly surprised how accurate I was with this, especially from the start with such 'robust' loads.
I learned how to shoot on my dad's .22 LR revolver when I was 10, and I've always been most accurate with the wheel guns.
When I saw this model 58 sitting in the back of the display case, I knew I had found something cool.
I do love this revolver.
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