Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980
Forum Register Expert Commentary Members List


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-11-2011, 01:15 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 224
Likes: 6
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Arrow S&W 17 or 18?

If you had your choice of either a model 17 or 18 which would you get and why?

I know the 18 is a 4" barrel and has combat sights and the 17 has target sights and has different barrel lengths but other than that why do you like the one you have?

Thanks


Update, After this thread reached 3 pages and several pm's from some helpful forum members I made up my mind as to which one to get. Thanks for the help and a special thanks to the person who sold me these. Tried to take so good pics but it is hard to show the deep blueing on the revolver. Enjoy the pics!

1966, Mint, hardly a turn line S&W 17-2




Notice the case colors.

Last edited by adluginb; 03-07-2011 at 03:20 PM. Reason: pics
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-11-2011, 05:41 AM
model17's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: clearwater,fl.
Posts: 210
Likes: 59
Liked 29 Times in 17 Posts
Default model 17

I have both and prefer the front site of the 17 as well as the longer sighting of the 6 in. barrel. Both are equally accurate in the right hands!
I have several 17's and this is my favorite(17-4) with the "3 T's"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-11-2011, 06:55 AM
GF's Avatar
GF GF is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 3,912
Likes: 1,286
Liked 1,930 Times in 606 Posts
Thumbs up

Well ya' just KNOW what a member with a screen name of Model 17 is gonna' like!

Very nice stocks on that revolver. Target hammer & trigger too - that set up is hard (impossible) to beat.

The Mod 18 is my 2nd choice unless it's from the 1950's...



... you don't choose between a 17 & an 18, you just gotta' have both.

GF
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-11-2011, 07:31 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chancelorsville, Virginia
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 350
Liked 1,061 Times in 382 Posts
Default

I don't have an 18 but do have a 17. It seems to me that 17's are easier to find than 18's, but I say that mostly because I don't know that I've ever even seen an 18. At least not since I learned enough about them to appreciate them. I'd like to have an 18.

Which one to get first? The one you can find I would say. Having said that, if you plan to shoot it mostly at the range, the 17 might be the way to go. If you plan to holster it and a carry in in the woods, I'd want the shorter, handier 18.
__________________
John 3:16 .
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-11-2011, 07:39 AM
murphydog's Avatar
SWCA Member

 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 9,947
Likes: 9
Liked 1,554 Times in 1,118 Posts
Default

Best to handle one of each before choosing. Personally I find the 18 to be a little muzzle-light and the 17 to be about right, but only you can tell what works best for you.
__________________
Alan
SWCA 2023
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-11-2011, 07:40 AM
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 966
Likes: 837
Liked 239 Times in 132 Posts
Default

I prefer the Model 18. It was designed to give us a 22 version of the Combat Masterpiece for practice and it accomplishes this mission well. That said, when I'm doing something that I want a 22 revolver along the 4" barrel is a great combination of "accurate AND handy". Since most of my serious carry revolvers are S&Ws with 3" or 4" bbls the M-18 remains a familiar friend.

As for the excellent and legendary M-17, it is certainly a great revolver for the range or for small game varmitting. I sold mine though when I realized that when I go to the range or field with a 22 the High Standard auto or the Colt Woodsman Match get to go.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-11-2011, 08:05 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: KY
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 424
Liked 604 Times in 301 Posts
Default

They are both fine guns. I had both but ended up selling the 17 and keeping the 18. It was just the use I had for them. The 18 was a little handier to carry and I have a model 15 that is almost identical to the 18 with 4 inch barrel.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-11-2011, 08:52 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 663
Likes: 7
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Default

A lot of people get the .22lr in the same barrel length as other revolvers that they have, me included.
I have mostly 4 inch revolvers and having the Mod 18 allows me to have the same feel in practice as shooting my other 4 inchers at a much lower cost. If I had more 6 inch guns I may be tempted to to get a Mod 17. Of course I do have a 6" Mod 19, looks like I need to get the 17.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-11-2011, 09:27 AM
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 653
Likes: 3
Liked 352 Times in 100 Posts
Default

Sir.
I have a couple dozen K22's. I have not made up my mind which I like best, 4 inch or 6 inch. I will buy a couple more and maybe then make a decision.
Bill@Yuma
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-11-2011, 10:16 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: MN
Posts: 124
Likes: 27
Liked 20 Times in 10 Posts
Default

I like the 18 a little better. It looks "right", packs easily, and is perfect for plinking and rabbits and such.

WILDPIG
__________________
I ain't from around here.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-11-2011, 10:20 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 113
Likes: 36
Liked 21 Times in 8 Posts
Default 6 versus 4

I agree with murphydog, it seems to me the balance on the 6 inch 17 is just about perfect, at least for me, I have 19ís in 4 and 6 inch and prefer the 6".
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Engine49guy's Avatar
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,756
Likes: 186
Liked 1,549 Times in 644 Posts
Default

I slightly prefer the 4" barrel of the Model 18 over the 17 beacuse its just esaier for me to holster.



IMHO the best of both worlds is the 17-5 with 4" M17 barrel contour.



It came about as a meens of eliminating the Model 18 line,



The 4" 17-6 full underlug gets honorable mention as my second favorite K22..... but...


My "dream" gun would be a 22 lr K frame with a Model 19 profile heavy barrel and half lug.

Last edited by Engine49guy; 02-11-2011 at 10:54 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-11-2011, 11:07 AM
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 1,789
Likes: 177
Liked 288 Times in 142 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpwhel View Post
A lot of people get the .22lr in the same barrel length as other revolvers that they have, me included.
I have mostly 4 inch revolvers and having the Mod 18 allows me to have the same feel in practice as shooting my other 4 inchers at a much lower cost. If I had more 6 inch guns I may be tempted to to get a Mod 17.
Same here. In my case, the 617 is the perfect companion for my 686 and 16-4.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	16716686.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	98.6 KB
ID:	37255  
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-11-2011, 11:14 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 470
Likes: 8
Liked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Default

I like the 17 at the range to punch holes in paper and the 18 the carry around in the wood and hiking.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-11-2011, 12:01 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 10 Posts
Default

I think mine is an 17-8 w/ 6 inch barrel... a 10 shot.

If I had to do over I might opt for a 4' over the 6' barrel. Maybe because I shoot so much more .22 that I seem to tire more easily.

It is a dream to shoot an accurate.

I would buy whichever came available first. One concern the blue guns obviously show more wear.


Last edited by wnr700; 02-12-2011 at 09:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-11-2011, 12:06 PM
Iggy's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 6,894
Likes: 1,159
Liked 5,893 Times in 1,609 Posts
Default

Model 17 and 14 seem to make a nice pair.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-11-2011, 12:46 PM
Wingmaster's Avatar
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Gillette Wyoming
Posts: 694
Likes: 271
Liked 476 Times in 142 Posts
Default

Iggy,
That is a very fine pair. I have been on the lookout for a pair just like that.

Wingmaster
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-11-2011, 01:06 PM
ab4ka's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 1,553
Likes: 0
Liked 14 Times in 10 Posts
Default

since I don't have either one I'd grab whichever one I could get my hands on
__________________
"I'm your huckleberry."
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-11-2011, 02:26 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SC/TX
Posts: 618
Likes: 339
Liked 77 Times in 52 Posts
Default

I was looking for a good Smith 17/18 for a good price and I just found a model 18 first and that is how I picked
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-11-2011, 03:11 PM
TAROMAN's Avatar
US Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: The wet side of Oregon
Posts: 4,105
Likes: 2,302
Liked 2,461 Times in 1,027 Posts
Default

I have both.
Model 17 8-3/8" and a 4" Model 18.



Personally, I prefer the 18 for anything except rimfire silhouette shooting at 100 meters, which is what I purchased the 17 for.

The 18 just handles and feels "right" to me. the Ahrends stocks help a lot, too. I like them enough that I'm gradually switching all my revolvers over to them.

I can also say the same for my Model 14/15 pair.
__________________
-jwk-
US Army '72-'95

Last edited by TAROMAN; 02-11-2011 at 06:44 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-12-2011, 08:07 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New England, USA
Posts: 1,962
Likes: 467
Liked 507 Times in 267 Posts
Default

I've owned and loved both. I'll vote 6" 17 here for ballance and sight advantages.
__________________
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-12-2011, 02:43 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Albany, OR
Posts: 458
Likes: 6
Liked 48 Times in 24 Posts
Default

I have the 18-3. Was looking for a 17, then decided to get the 4" 617 10 shot. Not sure how much I'd shoot the 17 at this point.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-12-2011, 03:24 PM
cp1969's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,369
Likes: 279
Liked 42 Times in 27 Posts
Default

I was faced with the same decision. I couldn't make it, so I have both.

If, for whatever reason, I could only keep one, it would be the M18.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-12-2011, 04:18 PM
GF's Avatar
GF GF is offline
SWCA Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 3,912
Likes: 1,286
Liked 1,930 Times in 606 Posts
Talking

WOW

And you asked ME what I thought!?!
You did better than I could of on your deal. Those three Ashland guns are the stars, the 17-2 is sweet (would've been my pick of the 22's too) and that 65 is a great carry piece.

As a matter of fact I just bought a Mod 65...

(shown with a 60-10)
...and it's a shooter if I ever had one.

Well played Andy !!!

Gail
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-12-2011, 07:30 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Woodstock, Georgia
Posts: 41
Likes: 6
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default 18-3

I like my 18-3

Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 02-12-2011, 08:47 PM
fyimo's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 15,613
Likes: 2,212
Liked 2,195 Times in 986 Posts
Talking

I have two model 18's and Model 17-4 with 8 3/8 barrel that shoots like a laser beam, a Model k22 and a 6 inch model 617 no dash. My favorite range shooter is the K22 6 inch and my favorite carry 22 is a Model 18-3. The 617 with 6 inch barrel is a great gun but the balance of the K22 6 inch feels better to me in my hand.

Hope this helps.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 02-12-2011, 09:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Back home, for now
Posts: 1,289
Likes: 785
Liked 969 Times in 230 Posts
Default

I like 'em both-just posted this on another thread.
Bob

Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 02-12-2011, 10:07 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rural NW Ohio
Posts: 1,903
Likes: 934
Liked 343 Times in 202 Posts
Default

Looks like you found a nice one(plus a few others)! I have a 17 and an 18; they serve differing purposes for me, so I never felt as though I had to choose. I use the 18 to review defensive shooting fundamentals periodically, since it doesn't have the recoil and the blast(makes it easier to concentrate on trigger control, etc.). I also use it to teach new shooters.

The 17 is for longer range target/bullseye-type shooting(I don't compete, just try to improve on my own).

I'm sure you'll enjoy your new acquisitions.
Andy
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 02-12-2011, 10:28 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Show-Me State
Posts: 250
Likes: 18
Liked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Yep, gotta get both; I resisted but the call to own both was too strong.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 02-12-2011, 10:33 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I have both as well. I honestly prefer the Model 18 with the 4" barrel. I just picked up a Model 17 with a 4" barrel to go with my 6" Model 17. I looked at a 6" Model 17 priced fairly the same day; I was seriously tempted, but I didn't want to spend that kind of money.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 03-07-2011, 03:22 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: OK
Posts: 224
Likes: 6
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OIF2 View Post
I like 'em both-just posted this on another thread.
Bob

What is the size of the T-grip size for these?
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 03-07-2011, 04:57 PM
fyimo's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 15,613
Likes: 2,212
Liked 2,195 Times in 986 Posts
Default

I posted eariler and my thoughts haven't changed much. I bought the K22 because I bought a K38 first and both are 5 screw and they weigh and balance exactly the same. To me the K22 or Model 17 6 inch maybe the perfect range revolver because at my age I need all the sight radius I can get. That said for packing in a holster on a field trip the Model 18 wins everytime.

K22

Model 17-4

Model 18-3
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 03-07-2011, 06:43 PM
model17's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: clearwater,fl.
Posts: 210
Likes: 59
Liked 29 Times in 17 Posts
Default

VERY nice collection of K .22's
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 03-07-2011, 09:33 PM
Nedroe's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 574
Likes: 1,273
Liked 609 Times in 162 Posts
Default I'll Take An 18 Please.....

This is my current pre-18. I used to have an 18-3 but my buddy wouldn't quit pesterin' me, so I sold it to him, just so he would shut up.




You can't go wrong with an 18, Ned
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 03-07-2011, 10:06 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upstate California
Posts: 495
Likes: 5
Liked 24 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Nearly a toss-up. I vote 18 unless you are after a longer barrel.
__________________
Jon
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 03-08-2011, 09:55 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 1
Liked 396 Times in 177 Posts
Default

You did very well with that 17-2, I have them in all three barrel lengths in both LR and WMR. While they look kind of unweildly the 8 3/8 balance suprisingly well in the hand and are great long range plinkers. Next a model 45 or pre 45 (I wish).

Short



Medium



Long



You know you want all 3
__________________
Jim
Many K and N Frames

Last edited by glenncal1; 03-08-2011 at 11:23 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 03-08-2011, 12:04 PM
69HEMI-R/T's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern Mexico/S.E. Tejas
Posts: 388
Likes: 112
Liked 97 Times in 47 Posts
Default



Well , I don't own a Model 17 but this is my first Model 18 I purchased. I have since gotten a couple more Model 18's and they are excellent shooters, all of them.

Yes , the grips really are that dark and probably have been refinished but . They fit and feel just fine.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
16-4, 22lr, 327, 617, 686, ahrends, bullseye, colt, combat masterpiece, k frame, k22, k38, m17, masterpiece, model 1, model 14, model 15, model 17, model 19, rimfire, s&w, silhouette, woodsman

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 Thread, S&W 17 or 18? in Smith & Wesson Revolvers; If you had your choice of either a model 17 or 18 which would you get and why? I know ...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:15 AM.


© S-W Forum, LLC 2000-2015
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)