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Old 03-25-2011, 11:14 AM
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2 1/2 P&R,4 in.P&R or a 3 in.NON P&R model 66.?
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I would desire any one of them,but both pictured are pinned.
.I personally think that the P&R in 2.5" are more desireable.

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I would say the 3", i think the non pinned 3" 66, and 13 are some of the best carry guns available..

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I'd agree that the 3" 66 is the most desirable variant.

That said, desirable for what purpose? Shooting or collecting?

Being a shooter, I find the 66-2 and 66-3 variants most desirable. I don't like using recessed cylinders in my carry or competition revolvers as the bullets sometimes hang up on the edge of the charge holes.

The flash chromed hammers and triggers are more attractive as well.

From the two in your photo I'd take the 4" 66-2. I'd prefer a 3" 66-2 to either. Regards 18DAI.
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I would say the 4" for a shooter, the 3" for the collector, and the 2.5" for carry. But any P/R will go for more money and always have more collector interest.
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IMHO, the P&R 2.5" FTW.

As an Industrial Designer for 40 years, I just like the proportions of this version the best. YMM

(+ getting it for $375 OTD didn't hurt either!)
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I've gotta go with any of the P&R guns. They simply represent an era of S&W production that will never again be available.

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I would say the 4" for a shooter, the 3" for the collector, and the 2.5" for carry. But any P/R will go for more money and always have more collector interest.
+1. I take a 4 inch barrel for shooting anyday over a 2.5 or 3 inch.
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Driheat & TDC ALWAYS post up the finest revolver photos. And the P&R comments are correct. Go with them in any model when you can.

A dash one in 2 & 1/2 and a "no dash" 66 in 4 inch.


and a six inch -1 because they don't get posted often.


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I concur on the P&R revolvers because they just don't make them like that anymore.

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The Model 66 was the first Magnum stainless handgun and was the gun to have when it came out. In my opinion, the first version with the 4-inch barrel and stainless sights is therefore the most historically significant of all Models 66. In my opinion, the 2.5-inch is the most handsome of all Smith & Wesson revolvers. The lines and "balance" of short barrel and round butt are superb. I suspect the 6-inch Model 66 is the least common, and my personal favorite. I lobbied Smith to offer the Model 66 in the 8.375-inch barrel, but to no avail (at least yet!).

I use the term "Model 66" as a term of art, meaning "no dash," which also makes them all "pinned and recessed," a feature that best represents the glory that was Smith & Wesson in the past. R.I.P.
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Most deserible model 66 for me is the originaly release 4" with the stainless sights followed by the 3" from any era. Though the few Performance Center model 66 offerings rank right up there as well.

Yes, that is a clear sideplate on mine.
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IMHO, the P&R 2.5" FTW.

As an Industrial Designer for 40 years, I just like the proportions of this version the best. YMM

(+ getting it for $375 OTD didn't hurt either!)
Hi Dri...

Beautiful photos as always...and go ahead and make me jealous that I had to pay $225.00 more to get my like-new '78 vintage 66 2.5"!!!!!!

Seriously, yours is such a beauty...Has it even been fired???


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IMHO...3", followed by 2 1/2" (P&R, or not), a close third is the round butt 4"
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Question How About a 3" 66 (no Dash) P&R With Keith Brown Grips?

Would this be something somebody would want?
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Nice gun model 39. I am still looking for an elusive 3" but vey satisfied with my 2.5" Model 19-3.
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I knew model 39 would bring that one out. Awesome pictures gents.

You know you don't have to ask me which I prefer.

I like my Combat magnums blue. And my Stainless Combat magnums
with round butts.





If the short ones shoot as well as the longer ones, why have a longer one?













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you got to start keeping those apart, I think they're multiplying!
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great pics Allen!!

I thought you had 2 new ones at first glance...but it was the 2 1/2's...

BTW...I prefer anything P&R myself, but my 4 inch M 66 from 1983 that isn't suits me fine...

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Seriously, yours is such a beauty...Has it even been fired???


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Here for the 15 th time is my one of 300 lew horton special. 66-3 3" ported, trilijon sights etc.

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3"...IMHO.

Driheat...where did you get those grips? Love 'em.
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4-S, I bought them from Eagle Grips.
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Would this be something somebody would want?
The answer to the question, MOST desirable, from either asthetic (opinion based, in this case mine) or collectable (monetary based, in this case ANY marketplace) is right here in vivid technicolor.

NUTTIN tops this one imo. Thanks for the pic. Curious, did this come from Smith the with target hammer?
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Love the 2.5 inch Model 66 pictured by DriHeat... I believe that I have it's twin in my Gun Safe... "Nice Picture"
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Most deserible model 66 for me is the originaly release 4" with the stainless sights followed by the 3" from any era. Though the few Performance Center model 66 offerings rank right up there as well.

Yes, that is a clear sideplate on mine.
Wow, haven't seen one of those sideplates in many years (1970's). Was issued a 66 when they first came out. Several years later dept. traded them for early 66-1 with the improved? gas ring. Had opportunity to buy original one but foolishly didn't. They did also offer to allow us to buy the 66-1's when we went to 686 and was not about to make the same mistake twice. Jumped on the 66-1 for the outrageous sum of $165. Had the stainless sights and football targets like the no dash. Serial dates to early 1980. Must have used left over transitional parts. Sorry, no photos, but really nice revolver.
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Wow, haven't seen one of those sideplates in many years (1970's). Was issued a 66 when they first came out. Several years later dept. traded them for early 66-1 with the improved? gas ring. Had opportunity to buy original one but foolishly didn't. They did also offer to allow us to buy the 66-1's when we went to 686 and was not about to make the same mistake twice. Jumped on the 66-1 for the outrageous sum of $165. Had the stainless sights and football targets like the no dash. Serial dates to early 1980. Must have used left over transitional parts. Sorry, no photos, but really nice revolver.
Also P&R S&W logo on sideplate.
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The answer to the question, MOST desirable, from either asthetic (opinion based, in this case mine) or collectable (monetary based, in this case ANY marketplace) is right here in vivid technicolor.

NUTTIN tops this one imo. Thanks for the pic. Curious, did this come from Smith the with target hammer?
The gun when I bought it came with the 500 target hammer and 500 trigger. The front sight blade is blue (not the usual stainless) with the RR insert, and it has a white outline rear sight. The Keith Brown grips were added this past February. Thanks for the comment(s).
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My only 66, a -2 that I found in a pawn shop for $250.00. It didn't have a cylinder release, and I got the wrong one in the mail from S&W, but that can be fixed.

I have to plead ignorance though: what is pinned and recessed, or P&R?

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Sorry that I'm posting shy of the actual dates (someone will be along shortly to correct me and supply them, have no doubt ) but Smith formerly, on many models of K and N frames, magnums, "pinned" the barrels in place as well as of course threading into the frame. Look at pics here and you'll see said pin on the end of the frame, right near the joining of the barrel.

R stands for recessed, as in recessed cylinder. Smith also recessed the end of the cylinders so that the cartridge, including case rim, were completely contained within the cylinder wall. Subsequent models/"dashes" did not have this feature as Smith found it to be unesessary for safety reasons. Meaning having the cartridge rim exposed between the end of the cylinder and the recoil shieid caused zero issues for safety or firing.

Hence the older models that are "P&R" or pinned and recessed, tend to command a premium. In short, they don't make em that way anymore.

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bigmacque,

This is a pinned and recessed very early Mod 66 no-dash. "P&R" was the way they were made for the 66 no-dash through the dash 1 models.. Pinned barrels were on all S&W revolvers and the recessed cylinder was a feature on magnum calibers.

These extra production steps were fazed out on all S&W handgun models during 1982, with occasional later guns possessing a recessed cylinder and no pinned barrel or vice-versa to use up existing inventory.


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My only 66 is a 2.5" 66-4. Any 66 is hard to find in CA, I noticed this one has carbon steel smooth trigger and hammer, not stainless. Is this "original equipment" and if so is it a bit unusual?
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Thanks for the responses, fella's, I appreciate that. Nice little history lesson to boot.
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