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Old 06-20-2011, 11:27 AM
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Found a S&W 28-2 for sale, $449 with Pachmayr grips no box.
Please tell me what to look for on the pistol before I buy it.
And what is Pinned and Recessed?
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Pinned means the barrel is pinned at the frame to keep it from turning loose. It is not done these days. You can see the pin just above the barrel on the frame. If you do a search on the forum, you'll find lots of information about it.

Recessed means the cartridges fit flush with the back of the cylinder. If you look at it, you'll see what I mean. This also is no longer done. It allowed for tighter tolerance at the barrel/cylinder interface.

As far as what to look for, primarily you want a tight lock-up when you put it in single action mode, little to no end-play on the cylinder, no signs of significant dents, marks, etc., which would indicate dropping or other abuse. Again, you can look up what end-play and lock-up mean on this forum. Others have described them in detail in earlier posts.

Typical model 28-2, if used, would show signs of wear from holster, etc., but number of round counts can be hard to determine. You want it to be clean and tight. The price would be ok on one that is. I'm sure you'll get some other responses. This is a great forum for S&W revolvers.

Hope that helps.

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Well a pinned barrel means there is a pin that protudes above the barrel in the top of the frame and recessed means the cylinders are counter bored so that the whole bullet case including the rim fits inside the chamber. On a non recessed cylinder the case rims sit outside the chamber and are against the cylinder face and can be seen when you look at the revolver when the cylinder is closed.

Check the side pay by gently turning the cylinder in the revolver when the cylinder is closed and some is normal but a lot is not. Also check this when the hammer is cocked because that is when lockup is critical.

Someone else can discuss end play but it's basically the cylinder moves up and down instead of in a rotational movement when closed.

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Thanks Guys.
I see what it means.
Of course now I have seen a 29-3 6" barrel.
In good condition it is $100 more.
No box or paperwork.
So which one.
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I think he means which one first.
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Everyone should have at least one HP.
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So which one.
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This is really a question only you can answer, but let me give you a couple things to think about.
Both the guns you are looking at are N frame Smiths. These are wonderful and very durable revolvers. But one is chambered for the .357 Magnum and the other for the .44 Magnum.
Both have the advantage of allowing you to shoot lighter loads. In the case of the Highway Patrolman you can shoot .38 Specials; in the case of the Model 29, you can shoot .44 Specials. That means you can practice with rounds that are much easier on your hand and more conducive to accurate shooting while you get to know your gun. But the price of ammo may be a factor. .38s will cost you less money and will be easier to locate than .44 Specials. Unless you are a handloader, this can add up over time.
When it comes to full house magnum loads, the same is true. .357 Magnums are going to be less expensive than .44 Magnums. They are also going to be easier to shoot. If you are a novice shooter, I really think you'd be better off with the Highway Patrolman as a starter gun. My first centerfire revolver was a Highway Patrolman and I have never regretted that acquisition. I've bought several more of them since that time and they are still among my favorite handguns. (They were also first guns for two of my sons!)
As someone has suggested, this will probably not be the end of the line for you. You can always (and probably will) acquire another Smith down the road. So there is plenty of time for a .44 to take its place alongside your .357.
Good luck - and let us know what you decide to do.
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By the way - in case it matters to you - the 29-3 is not a p&r gun. The Model 28-2 is.
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For the fun of it, here's a Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman. This particular example is a 1972 vintage gun with a 6" barrel.
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And here's my 4" barrel 28-2 from 1978.



It looks like serious business to me.

This is a K-frame Model 15, but it may give you an idea of a non recessed gun. Note the difference in the gap between the back of the cylinder and the recoil shield.

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You will punch yourself in the face later if you pass up that Highway Patrolman. You better snatch that bad boy up fast. They are starting to go for rediculous money. 29's are everywhere since so many people shoot them once, cry their hand hurts, and then strade them in. And a 29-3 isn't nearly as collectable as a 28-2. I would do a straight trade any day of the week on my 29-3 for a like condition 28-2. Heck, that 29-3 may still be in need of the endurance package upgrade. I know mine is and I don't shoot anything hot in it to make sure it doesn't start shooting loose on me. GO GET THAT 28-2!!!!
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I would be looking at the 28-2. Cheaper to shoot. 38/357
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Question 28-2

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Don't know what to do!!
Today is the day.
Hang on.... Endurance Package Upgrade!!
Does the 28-2 require one of those?

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Don't know what to do!!
Today is the day.
Hang on.... Endurance Package Upgrade!!
Does the 28-2 require one of those?
Probably not. The 28-2 is my recommendation, if it's still available at that price. By the way, I've recently acquired a 28-2, and it is a mighty fine shooter.
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Just read up on the EPU.
Suppose the 28-2 looks favourite.
Noticed the 29 has a nice visual front and rear sight.
Any method for the 28? besides white out.
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I got my first 4" 28-2 a couple of weeks ago and shot it for the first time Sunday. What a fantastic shooter it is. I have a couple of 629's (stainless 29's) and they spend most of the time in the safe. The 28-2 is way more fun to shoot and is super accurate. I would go for the 28-2.

As far as the sights go, the rear blade can be changed for a white outline and the front sight can be colored orange to look like the front sight on the 29. Most people use nail polish or hobby paint. They can be touched up as needed and work very well. I have it on the front sight of my 28-2.
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Any method for the 28? besides white out.
Yes. Red or Yellow (your preference) nail polish. It endures and is easily removed the same way our wives remove it from their nails - chemicals in a bottle!
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Suppose the 28-2 looks favourite.
You won't be sorry.
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Another nudge in the right direction. This is my '66-67 28-2.
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28-2 was my second wheelgun & first (but not last) S&W. Be warned. You may be starting a $eriou$ addiction.

If you get the 28-2 I seriously doubt you'll be sorry.
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She's mine.
The 28-2 that is,
More than I thought $500 out the door I misread the tag D'OH.
Oh well
Photo's soon had to put it on layaway due unexpected car repair.

But here is a photo of her 1st cousin


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my 28-2 shoot like a champ every time it was worth every dime ,
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Unhappy 28-2

Picked up the Highwayman today at 10 AM had it broken by 1130AM.
Took it apart as per the AGI video cleaned it and put it 95% back together when the Hammer Sear Spring escaped into the living room.
It's still AWOL now.
Will phone S&W on Tuesday for another one.

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Mostly you won't need to go to that level of disassembly for cleaning. More than a few of us have buggered-up sideplate screws from that. Plus, you're less likely to lose parts! Good thing S&W has good customer service.

Look up the Washington Arms Collectors online and try to make one of their monthly gunshows at the Puyallup fairgrounds. It's a big show with lots of Smiths.

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I would have to agree with JP and say that I have a lot more fun shooting .38's than I do the .44 mags and they are cheaper to shoot. I say go with the HP to start. Bob
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In my humble opinion, you made the correct choice by choosing the M28-2. Great weapon and getting ridiculously expensive. Here is my 4" 1969 version. There will be other Smiths in your house!

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Graham, so glad you decided to pick up the 28-2. My 28,4", no dash was my latest purchase. One thing I love about the S&W's is there high polish blue finish. Although this revolver does not have the finish I like, there is something about it that I love. It feels just perfect in my hand. At the range I do put .357's through it, but I also put .38 specials through it as a cost saving method. I know you're going to love it.
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Here she is I found the sear spring yesterday afternoon and put it back together.
Nice or What!!!!




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i picked this one up at the pensacola, florida gunshow on the 25th of june in the original box for $400.00 out the door. she shoots like a dream and has been taken over by the mrs. she's happy and so am i. it is a 28-2
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Beautiful A320, just beautiful! Congrats on the purchase!
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Welcome to the U.S., A320graham!
You have just purchased one of the finest weapons ever produced. If you take care of it, it will outlive you. It's great that you have the original grip.
However, I'd stop taking the side plate off. It's not really a good idea.

Your next step should loading your own ammo. It would be great if you could find someone with experience to help you get started.
Loading you own ammo increases the fun of hand gun shooting ten-fold, especially with the .357; this round has 101 variations, and you can shoot everything from 110 to 190 grain loads, jacketed or lead bullets, and so on. It's really a lot of fun.
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