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Old 01-27-2012, 09:19 AM
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I just looked at a 29-2 that a friend wants to sell. I noticed a few things outright. First, the bluing on the barrel is lighter than the bluing on the frame. Second, the original rear sight was replaced with a Millet. Third, the rib on the barrel (correct term I hope) seems distinctively more narrow than that on the top strap/frame. There is also a scratch near the barrel pin. I am going to speculate that the barrel is not original. The number that I located inside the crane is "N8251xx"
The gun is a high 80%/low 90% overall.

Any info on the correct barrel length if applicable, date of manufacture, and value would be appreciated.

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Old 01-27-2012, 12:54 PM
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I just looked at a 29-2 that a friend wants to sell. I noticed a few things outright. First, the bluing on the barrel is lighter than the bluing on the frame. Second, the original rear sight was replaced with a Millet. Third, the rib on the barrel (correct term I hope) seems distinctively more narrow than that on the top strap/frame. There is also a scratch near the barrel pin. I am going to speculate that the barrel is not original. The number that I located inside the crane is "N8251xx"
The gun is a high 80%/low 90% overall.

Any info on the correct barrel length if applicable, date of manufacture, and value would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Joe
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That serial # places that 29-2 in the 1980-1983 range for production: How to Identify/Date a S&W.

A picture or two would sure help in determining the value based on wear and identifying that suspect barrel you mentioned.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:25 PM
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Hmmm. The barrel ribs on my 29-2's are slightly more narrow than the frame, but the 10 grooves are about the same. The scratch by the pin and the color of the barrel might be a hint that the barrel was changed. I don't know, but I would think you could replace the Millet with a S&W rear sight without much problem. I agree with Bryan87 on the pictures.
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Thanks Gents, I will see if the seller will allow me to take pictures to post. I may have already burned a bridge when I pointed out the color difference though.

I have no problem with buying a cobbled revolver, but at a cobbled price.

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I have a 29-2 that was made in 1976, its the nickel 8 3/8", I called S&W and they gave me the year of manufacture, you can maybe call them! And yes, I would only pay for what you are getting!
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It's common to encounter barrels, cylinders, and frames that have slightly different bluing.

The reason is that these components are polished separately as parts, and blued in batches, and hence the potential for slightly differently finishes.

Calling S&W will only give the shipping date of the revolver, not whether it was rebarrelled.
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I bought a new model 27-2 in 1978 and the frame was the deep dark blue you see on most Smiths and the 6" barrell was lighter and had even a little grey hint to it.
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If S&W changed the barrel there should be a mark under the left stock panel or a star by the SN. I'm not sure when and if S&W stopped using the star to indicate a rebuild or refinish. Some of my older guns have the star and the letter of authenticity does indicate that they went back to the factory. If the barrel has been changed, and changed by someone other that S&W it may not be marked at all.
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If S&W changed the barrel there should be a mark under the left stock panel or a star by the SN. I'm not sure when and if S&W stopped using the star to indicate a rebuild or refinish. Some of my older guns have the star and the letter of authenticity does indicate that they went back to the factory. If the barrel has been changed, and changed by someone other that S&W it may not be marked at all.
Let's just clear this up a little... A letter from the S&W Factory Historian, Mr. Roy Jinks WILL NOT indicate if the gun was returned for rework. It WILL however tell you the origional configuration when shipped.

By the time this 29 was built in the early 80's the practice of stamping rework data on the grip straps was largely discontinued.
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i'm guessing the differance in bluing color is somewhat of a plum color..this is common and is caused by a differance of temp.in the bluing salts
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Let's just clear this up a little... A letter from the S&W Factory Historian, Mr. Roy Jinks WILL NOT indicate if the gun was returned for rework. It WILL however tell you the origional configuration when shipped.

By the time this 29 was built in the early 80's the practice of stamping rework data on the grip straps was largely discontinued.
I guess what I should have said is there might be a mark on the grip straps. I have letters from Mr. Jinks stating the guns were returned to S&W for work, but I specifically asked about the star and dates on the grips. Mr. Jinks was not able to tell me what work was performed or when, only what those marks indicated. I can provide copies of these letters with those statements.

I appreciate the information as to approximately when the practice of stamping guns for that purpose was discontinued.
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