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Old 02-08-2012, 11:52 AM
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The photo makes it look worse than it is, but does highlight what it is. A nice 19-3 snub, P&R, round butt, original grips with a Tyler T. It is configured exactly as it was when I obtained it.

This being SC, there's signs of spotting on the gun as you can see. The blue is also worn off on a portion of the backstrap where it looks as though a holster strap rubbed it. Probably carried by a right handed user, and carried more than it was shot.

I got it as part of a trade a while back.

Some years ago I came close to buying one of the final production 19 snubs (I forget what dash that would have been) but skipped it in favor of a Ruger Six Series which was half the price. I liked that Six Series snub.

I've had two other 19s and one 66 over the years. A nice nickel 19-2 that looked unfired, but locked up on me when I shot it. A gunsmith said it had a "burr" and charged me $25 to fix it. It seemed to work fine after that, but I later sold it. The other 19 was a 19-3 4" that I got for a decent price off Auction Arms. I sold it when I moved down here on the theory that a blued revolver wasn't going to be the best choice in this climate.

And then comes this one. Eh. It seems to handle well enough, and it's mechanically sound. But I find myself unable to think of a use for it. Ballistics wise, I keep thinking of the .357 Sig autos that I didn't keep - a P229R and a G32 - same basic ballistics, similar weight and size and double the capacity.

Talking about it locally, the most apt though cutting statement may have been "Trade it for a Glock, it's obsolete".

I don't know. Is it?

I most likely will find a new home for it locally, but it makes me wonder if climate and changing needs have caused me to outgrow my fondness for some older revolvers. I still have a pre-10 M&P, a 36, a 3" 31-1 etc... but I find myself wondering whether I'll find myself getting rid of them after the 19-3.

Is there anything I'm failing to see - other than being a classic of its era in a way, is there some niche that a Model 19 snub will still excel at ?
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The photo makes it look worse than it is, but does highlight what it is. A nice 19-3 snub, P&R, round butt, original grips with a Tyler T. It is configured exactly as it was when I obtained it.

This being SC, there's signs of spotting on the gun as you can see. The blue is also worn off on a portion of the backstrap where it looks as though a holster strap rubbed it. Probably carried by a right handed user, and carried more than it was shot.

I got it as part of a trade a while back.

Some years ago I came close to buying one of the final production 19 snubs (I forget what dash that would have been) but skipped it in favor of a Ruger Six Series which was half the price. I liked that Six Series snub.

I've had two other 19s and one 66 over the years. A nice nickel 19-2 that looked unfired, but locked up on me when I shot it. A gunsmith said it had a "burr" and charged me $25 to fix it. It seemed to work fine after that, but I later sold it. The other 19 was a 19-3 4" that I got for a decent price off Auction Arms. I sold it when I moved down here on the theory that a blued revolver wasn't going to be the best choice in this climate.

And then comes this one. Eh. It seems to handle well enough, and it's mechanically sound. But I find myself unable to think of a use for it. Ballistics wise, I keep thinking of the .357 Sig autos that I didn't keep - a P229R and a G32 - same basic ballistics, similar weight and size and double the capacity.

Talking about it locally, the most apt though cutting statement may have been "Trade it for a Glock, it's obsolete".

I don't know. Is it?

I most likely will find a new home for it locally, but it makes me wonder if climate and changing needs have caused me to outgrow my fondness for some older revolvers. I still have a pre-10 M&P, a 36, a 3" 31-1 etc... but I find myself wondering whether I'll find myself getting rid of them after the 19-3.

Is there anything I'm failing to see - other than being a classic of its era in a way, is there some niche that a Model 19 snub will still excel at ?
Totally agree with you. I suggest you send it to me so I can treat it with the dis-respect it obviously deserves.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:59 AM
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Naa...It's worthless, pack it up and send it to me, I will dispose of it for you.
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I can take it off your hands too. I have one just like that.. it actually came from SC, so maybe it is it's brother and needs to be reunited. Actualluy mine i s 19-4. But no matter it also had some spotting (not rust) on the finish. Not bad but some. It was priced accordingly. There may be something to the SC humdity.
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You have had a couple of M19's, and did not seem to like them. That is why there are so many other products. I happen to like the K frame snubbie. I like it better than a J frame, but that is just me. To me it is all about the feel. If it does not feel right, find another. I do not think it is obsolete because there are many who still carry them. But what I think doesn't matter. I will not own a gun I do not like. You should probably think about selling it. There are many on here, me included, who would love to have that M19 shooter. Just my opinion.
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Only a moron would own something as "old fashioned" as a 19.....well me AND the morons.

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Old 02-08-2012, 02:22 PM
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I blame alot of the gun mags for this whole "revolver is obsolete" business. I think the revolver is just as capable as any semi auto on the market. Think of it, you can shoot .357's and .38's in that gun, no Glock can do that. You never have to worry about it jamming, semi autos from every make can do that. Personally I think its one of the nicest snubs you can own although I have a preference for short barreled N frames and I think they would have been better served by making a 3-inch version Model 19, something like the Model 13. No, there is nothing wrong with the gun you have. Although it would look nicer with some elk stags to go with that Tyler T.
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Get the Glock. You'll never look back. I know how it is to have a pistol that just doesn't float your boat......It should bring $400 at just about any gun show in SC.
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i too live in a very humid climate (va) and always have...i keep a goldenrod in the safe which really helps...prior to the safe i would frequently wipe them all down with a good gun oil...mrG i know you are aware of all this and do so but wanted to post as a reminder to those that are new to the "southern tropics"
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GatorFarmer, I can feel your pain, I'm still trying, really hard, to appreciate my M-27 5”. It does everything it supposed to do and it does it very well, but there is just something about it (??) that is not working for me.
If you are thinking about selling your M-19 2 1/2" PLEASE drop me a line. I'm in the R.T.P. area of NC.
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Yes!!!

There is a niche right next to my 4" and 6" model 19s. This one would complete the set.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:45 PM
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I wouldnt have that wore out, outdated piece of junk old timers wheel gun. You really should get rid of it ASAP before someone calls you grandpaw.
Send it to me, I have another just like it that would love to have a twin brother LOL!
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"Talking about it locally, the most apt though cutting statement may have been "Trade it for a Glock, it's obsolete"." A statement probably made by a young man.
It's what you feel comfortable with that is the deciding factor in a CCW. I have a Glock 19 that I seldom carry.

I carry and shoot old "outdated" revolvers daily. I've wore the blue off these and they still shoot point of aim.



Most people DO carry a semi-auto handgun. I don't. Just never saw the need.

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I agree.

I am not arming myself for a major fire fight. If I can't get out of trouble with 5 or 6 rounds of .38, I doubt that 15 rounds of 9mm will do the job, either.
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Moron huh? I guess I've been called worse. LOL



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I have a convalecent home right here in SC for aging Smiths. Here they can live out their life with love and nurture. They will be fed, fired and admired.

Guess I'm obsolete too............
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I am not arming myself for a major fire fight. If I can't get out of trouble with 5 or 6 rounds of .38, I doubt that 15 rounds of 9mm will do the job, either.



+1. Since I am not a bouncer at a Hells Angers bar, a doorman at a crack house, or guarding drug cartel leaders I think just SHOWING a handgun will solve 99% of the issues and if a BG sees my J or K frame he is going to think ' I bet that dude can actually HIT WITH THAT 'GRANDPA GUN.'
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Go out and get a Gen 4 Glock, with all of it's issues, recalls, spring replacements, magazine issues etc. Especially, with that really special grip angle, after all Browning got everything wrong and it needed changed, right? The Glock fan boys amaze me. Yes, it's a good gun, but so are a lot of other manufacturers guns. If you buy a Semi, look at the Glock Gen 2's, they are the best of the Glocks. But, also look at FNP's, M&P's, Sigs, HK's, Gen 3's, 1911's, 2011's, XDM's and several others that are just as good a gun as Glocks or better.

Personally, I think you are missing the point. The 19 as a Bug, combined with a Semi would be a great carry combo. Each pistol has it's niche. JMO.
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I'd be willing to own that Model 19 and use it for serious social purposes.

I'm unwilling to own a Glock.

Doesn't matter what the current crowd thinks is tacti-cool.
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I appreciate what Gator Farmer was saying -- though the gun was nice when it came into the world -- it is now rather beat up. If any of us saw it at a gun show or LGS we'd bargain low on this one -- real low. This gun is a shooter at best. And Gator Farmer seems to be a semi-auto guy -- those are the guns he likes to shoot. So no wonder he cannot find a place for this old beat 19.

I do have a suggestion though: I would stick it in the glove compartment -- in a carjack situation sometimes it's hard to give those semis the firm two-hand grip foundation they need for reliable functioning, whereas a revolver can be fired one hand or the other, out either the driver side or passenger side window, with no reliability concerns.
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It is all about confort. What ever feel good in your hand will usually give you the best performance. Although I have owned semis, I like revolvers and shoot better with them. The Mod 19 is a nice gun and most revolver guys like them. On the other hand, a gun in poor condition may just turn you off, even if it were a semi-auto.
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I'm putting together a display of obsolete, formerly useful firearms of the revolver persuasion to demonstrate how inadequate they are to the task of self-defense in today's modern crime-ridden society. I would appreciate the donation of such an antique as you appear to have been stuck with to enhance said display.

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... And then comes this one. Eh. It seems to handle well enough, and it's mechanically sound. But I find myself unable to think of a use for it. ....
... Is there anything I'm failing to see - other than being a classic of its era in a way, is there some niche that a Model 19 snub will still excel at ?
Sir, I feel your pain. I used to have two lovely little K-.357 snubs--a Model 66 and a Model 13--and ended up getting rid of both. They were too little to hunt with, too big and heavy for pocket carry, and worst of all, I couldn't hit well with them. They were absolute bears with full-power ammo. Once I realized that these allegedly small guns were nearly as big as a 1911 (which I could shoot well), their days were numbered.

Now, of course, I wish I had them back ... so that I could sell them again for even more money.

Bottom line: You're not required to like it. If it doesn't suit you, let it go.

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I like Glocks a lot...I own three. Particularly my Glock 26, which i consider one of the best CCW pistols I have ever owned.
But, I can't wait to get my Model 19 snub back from Andy Horvath, where it has been getting a tune up for carry up and end shake issues. Going to see Andy tomorrow and pick my Model 19 up.
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Random thoughts...

First, I am not a 357 Mag kind of guy...

I am a 1911/45ACP or a 44 Mag kind of guy...

However, even I have a 2 1/2" Mod 19.

It is one great handgun.

For most people I recommend a revolver for Concealed Carry.

A 2 1/2" Mod 19/66 is a great choice. Again IMHO.
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That is a great Trio of revolvers.

Even a 44 Mag freek like me, can appreciate a Trio of Mod 19's like yours.

Well done, IMHO.
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I live in SC and I thing I could warm to the old 19!
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I can't say I care too much for them either. I've got a 65-5 with a 3" barrel, and a Model 10 with a 2", but generally I don't care for a barrel less than 4" or longer than 6".
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You have had a couple of M19's, and did not seem to like them. That is why there are so many other products. I happen to like the K frame snubbie. I like it better than a J frame, but that is just me. To me it is all about the feel. If it does not feel right, find another. I do not think it is obsolete because there are many who still carry them. But what I think doesn't matter. I will not own a gun I do not like. You should probably think about selling it. There are many on here, me included, who would love to have that M19 shooter. Just my opinion.
JC said it for me. If you don't like it sell it as there's many who would lick their chops for that baby and put it to good use. My K frame snubs are all accurate and to this day very lethal with a Speer Gold Dot 158 gr. HP. It's not capacity, it's all watching that front sight and releasing the trigger at the right moment. If you can shoot the Glock better carry it as accuracy always wins over shots missed. JMO
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I think it's your money so do what floats your boat and get whatever gun makes you happy. I own both Sig's and S&W revolvers and quite frankly I carry a Sig P228.

I love my S&W revolvers and I take them to the range and they are great shooters but for personal defense I carry a Sig.

It also seems to me that you weren't looking for a lot of love when you posted this in a S&W forum filled with a bunch of S&W addicts like me.
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Oddly enough, the other side of the revolver is actually pristine. As are the mechanics. The spotting and wear is probably from sweat getting on it - a common problem in hot climates. It was shot very little so the mechanics are still tight.

I have quite a few older guns. My favorite 1911 was made in 1978, when I would have been four. It's somewhat sarcastically that I relate the "get a Glock" comments locally - I've had six or so of them over the years - 23, 2 x27s, 26, 32, 34 - and never seem to retain one.

I take care of the Colt I have, but it's blue finish seems destined to suffer down here too. But I'll eventually "fix" it (and destroy any collector value, but eh) with a refinish of some sort.

I'm reluctant to do that to the 19-3. And it was a revolver that I'd wanted for a while, on and off, since I was in college. Well not this particular one, but one like it. And I should enjoy it. But I don't. And it bothers me that I don't on some level. (Rather like years ago when I was engaged to a film studies student, and I honestly maintained that I didn't like Citizen Kane or the Godfather films, despite feeling like I was supposed to.)

I carried a Ruger stainless Six Series (I honestly forget what it was since it was simply a utilitarian item) snub before I left MI. It was oddly enjoyable to shoot, loud but controllable and for some reason everyone seeing it thought it was some sort of mini cannon.
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Whats a 19 snub good for? Well....it is the finest back alley butt stomper made by S&W.......or anybody else. It also can be used to get a miscreants attention, or correct his behaviour, by applying it to his skull in a judicious fashion. Try that with those tupperware guns, and let us know how it works out for you. Regards 18DAI
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I feel your pain Gator. Living about 5 miles off the gulf as the crow flies meand that blued guns for me are a constant headache. So much so that I got tired of babying and worrying about my 520 and 27's that I sold them. Am much happier not having to worry about one day spying a rust spot on them. The only blued guns I now own are a K22 and an old model Single six-but I check them at least once every two weeks. The rest of my guns are all stainless-the only ones that aren't ar emy shotguns. When our possessions begin to own us-it's time to get rid of them. Pure and Simple.
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I will take your model 19 snubbie. I have not seen one for sale in Califonia in years. I have two tupperware guns I will trade you for. I am not into tupperware.
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Trade it for a Mod 66 2 1/2", or do what I did, have it finished in an impervious finish like Metaloy. This is a 19-4.
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I'd be willing to own that Model 19 and use it for serious social purposes.

I'm unwilling to own a Glock.

Doesn't matter what the current crowd thinks is tacti-cool.
I feel your pain.

Though in my late 40's I still have all of my hair and feel no need to shave it off, exchange my blue jeans for black jeans, my grey t-shirts for skin tight black t-shirts with tatoo art on them, a kydex holster, a Glock with extra mags and "The Punisher" skull emblazoned somewhere on it's frame, and then putting on a couple of earrings to go with a tribal tatoo on my arm. The only skull on my body or clothes is the one under my hat.

I watched the original "Night of the Living Dead" and I know that classic revolvers and pump shotguns with, dare I say wooden stocks are more than capable of taking out the undead hordes.

I can't believe the number of casualties we had in our "Civil War" (or War of Northern Agression) without Gaston's Glock. Amazing when you think about it.

If the right Glock 19 comes in the shop I am going to buy it and epoxy two stag grip panels on the frame just to be a smart alec.
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Trade it for a Mod 66 2 1/2", or do what I did, have it finished in an impervious finish like Metaloy. This is a 19-4.
Beautiful! What are the grips?
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I’ve found that I’m not much of a .357 fan. Shameful I know.
Except in a Marlin 1894.

I always want to shoot/carry full effort 125’s @ 1450 fps.
Problem is I can’t effectively control the recoil.

I think I’m better off with the big slow moves like 45 Colt, .45 acp, 44 special. Jmho

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Don't I recall something about a three-three-three rule? The average gunfight involves three shots fired at a distance of three yards in the space of three seconds. This is true for everybody, so after the run of threes, an involved party should expect to be either victorious or out of commission. If the situation remains unresolved, both parties were undertrained; maybe the point doesn't need to be made, but it takes only one properly trained person to make a standard two-party gunfight.

Anyway, by my arithmetic a 19-3 can handle two average gunfights without reloading. If that's not enough, that's your call. But if you wanted to carry 12 rounds, wouldn't you rather have, say, all that ammo in two guns rather than in one? That way if you have a mechanical failure with your primary weapon, you have enough ammo for two gunfights in the reserve. That strikes me as a better option than 12 locked up in a black poly brick.

Half kidding, of course, but it remains the case that we all have to consider multiple strategies for improbable situations. Life's too short to agonize over barely differentiated options. There is always more than just one right way to do a thing, so don't let decision paralysis leave you unprepared to deal with the real problem rather than the preparation for it. Just go with what makes you most comfortable today, and don't think about alternatives that haven't risen to the top spot by themselves.
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Anyway, by my arithmetic a 19-3 can handle two average gunfights without reloading. If that's not enough, that's your call. But if you wanted to carry 12 rounds, wouldn't you rather have, say, all that ammo in two guns rather than in one? That way if you have a mechanical failure with your primary weapon, you have enough ammo for two gunfights in the reserve. That strikes me as a better option than 12 locked up in a black poly brick.
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Don't I recall something about a three-three-three rule? The average gunfight involves three shots fired at a distance of three yards in the space of three seconds. This is true for everybody, so after the run of threes, an involved party should expect to be either victorious or out of commission. If the situation remains unresolved, both parties were undertrained; maybe the point doesn't need to be made, but it takes only one properly trained person to make a standard two-party gunfight.

Anyway, by my arithmetic a 19-3 can handle two average gunfights without reloading. If that's not enough, that's your call. But if you wanted to carry 12 rounds, wouldn't you rather have, say, all that ammo in two guns rather than in one? That way if you have a mechanical failure with your primary weapon, you have enough ammo for two gunfights in the reserve. That strikes me as a better option than 12 locked up in a black poly brick.

Half kidding, of course, but it remains the case that we all have to consider multiple strategies for improbable situations. Life's too short to agonize over barely differentiated options. There is always more than just one right way to do a thing, so don't let decision paralysis leave you unprepared to deal with the real problem rather than the preparation for it. Just go with what makes you most comfortable today, and don't think about alternatives that haven't risen to the top spot by themselves.

Oh sure bring LOGIC into it.
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I'm a life-long resident of SC with the exception of 4 years away for military service. I have zero problems with climate induced rusting. Get some RIG and kiss your problems of that type away.

If you can't warm up to that revolver put a reasonable price on it and watch it take wings.
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I'm a life-long resident of SC with the exception of 4 years away for military service. I have zero problems with climate induced rusting. Get some RIG and kiss your problems of that type away.

If you can't warm up to that revolver put a reasonable price on it and watch it take wings.


I agree 100% I lived in New Orleans for a few years and RIG kept everything looking good.
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I have nickled 19 snubbie that I carry in a Tucker holster. Not only does the rig fit and wear well, but when worn to "in service" schools it always gets attention from the "kids" and makes a wonderful fishfry-bbq rig....the ladies love it and I meet all sorts of curious folks....does't happen when the 1911 is worn...kind of an interesting social phenomenon actually....
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I'll trade you a LNIB Gen 2 Glock 17 for it! I'm serious.
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It's odd, you know. You could look at 100 Glocks in all the different calibers and they all look the same, all clones. But put two revolvers next to each other and each tells a different story and looks completely different.
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