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Old 02-27-2012, 11:21 PM
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I have noticed in my casual search for a 27-2 8 3/8 in nickel that the same model in .44 mag is a bit less. Also any 45 ACP p&r is higher than the .44 as well. About even or more with the 27-2 gun for gun Clean Model17/K22's are sometimes higher than the .44 as well. Model 57's are also a bit lower than the 27-2's The 58's seem to be in an area all their own but clean 28's are close to being equal. Seems to be all about ammo cost as most casual shooters don't reload. I would guess that would include about 80-90% of all rounds fires. Any thoughts or input?

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There is no indication of what area you live in and that alone can be a big factor...

S&W handguns, and especially P&R and earlier models fluctuate frequently in value and popularity. Each specific model tends to fluctuate in price currently by barrel length based on urban ownership or rural, home defense, hunting or range usage.

Certain caliber ammo prices do have a buying impact with some people. Many 22 caliber models have been sold primarily for their comparatively lower ammo costs. The same lower cost of ammo has been a factor for many 38 Sp model sales through the years.

Some sales trends are easy to understand, others are not.

The 41 Mag used to be one of the slowest sellers in the Pac. North West. In recent years the versatility and usefulness of the caliber has generated a huge new following. It has become the most difficult caliber to find in good condition in any barrel length in my area, and for that reason they are commanding the higher prices well beyond the 27's and 29's. Perhaps not so in some other areas.

Supply and demand, both in original production numbers and current shooter/collector interest always enter into the factoring. A close second is a sudden unexplainable popularity that can be fleeting and can change almost overnight.

Handgun collecting, hunting and shooting have been interests of mine for over 40 years. I've seen popularity and preferences for guns and calibers change frequently and unpredictably. I don't see anything to change that outlook in the future....

Just as a reminder.... Mod 25 ACP's were pinned only. Only the magnum and rimfire models were recessed.....

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where I am at 27s and 57, 58's comand the price.. New commers seem to go for the 29,629 guns.. The .22s are always going to command a price as they are cheap to shoot and are just great guns to hone your skills (get rid of the flinches). The only thing on ammo price is with the 22s the rest is just people knowing whats good for what they need.
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Local pro shop has had one in very nice conditon for sale for the last couple of weeks. Contact info here: The Bullet Hole - Omaha, Nebraska ++ Omaha's Finest indoor shooting range ++
The owner, Wes, is a great guy and he does out of state sales all the time. I've been buying from him for about 15 years. Asking price was $669 and I would expect a bit of "wiggle room" in the price.

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I have noticed in my casual search for a 27-2 8 3/8 in nickel that the same model in .44 mag is a bit less. Also any 45 ACP p&r is higher than the .44 as well. About even or more with the 27-2 gun for gun Clean Model17/K22's are sometimes higher than the .44 as well. Model 57's are also a bit lower than the 27-2's The 58's seem to be in an area all their own but clean 28's are close to being equal. Seems to be all about ammo cost as most casual shooters don't reload. I would guess that would include about 80-90% of all rounds fires. Any thoughts or input?

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i wouldn't agree that most casual shooters do not reload which accounts for up to 90% of all rounds fired...gun prices change all the time as does there perspective popularity
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I dont know if it's affecting gun prices, but around here, it's difficult to get ammo for even things like 38 special for decent prices, if at all. All the walmarts around me have been completely out of regular jacketed ammo in 38 spc (winchester white box or remington) for quite some time. So forced to buy inflated gun store ammo prices or deal with online. It's not as bad as the 9mm shortage of a couple years ago, but it's frustrating.
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I think that more experienced shooters [read those that shoot more then a few boxes a year] are looking at .22 revolvers and pistols to keep their round counts up and costs down.

While I have years of centerfire ammo put back, I've gotten into shooting more .22 lately and have bought more .22 cal firearms [to include revolvers] then anything else lately.

Anything that drive's up interest in certain calibers will also tend to raise the price, classic supply and demand.
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