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Old 02-10-2017, 04:57 PM
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Thread title pretty much asks my main question. I know they were a short run. Anyone know how many were made? Does the 10-2 stamping add any collector value?
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My first Model 10 was purchased in the early 1980s and was a dash 7, I think. All of mine are -5 or -7. One might not be; I will have to check. I do not think that have ever seen a dash 2.
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The 4th edition says the 10-2 in 1961 changed extractor rod thread, right hand to left hand thread on standard barrel.
No mention that the 10-2 had anymore collector value than any other model 10.
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I've never seen a 10-2 in my life!
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It could be not many 10-2 are seen because the 10-3 was also made the same year as the 10-2 which was 1961. Then the 10-4 came in 1962.
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Here's a 10-2 snub. A four-screw to boot. Circa 1961. My favorite carry
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Here's a 10-2 snub. A four-screw to boot. Circa 1961. My favorite carry
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I don't believe they are rare but this one sure is NICE !!
As with most models, the earlier you get the less examples
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The 10-2 and -4 (tapered barrel) and -3 (4" heavy barrel only) are scarce. The 2" 10-2 pictured above is the first I have seen; I have seen a few 6" 10-4s.
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Thanks for the replies. I'm asking because I have a 10-2 that I acquired about 11 or 12 years ago when I lived in NoVA. It was a consignment sale at a local gun store and, according to the shop, had belonged to a former D.C. Police Officer. His family put it up for sale after he passed away.
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The 10-2 and -4 (tapered barrel) and -3 (4" heavy barrel only) are scarce. The 2" 10-2 pictured above is the first I have seen; I have seen a few 6" 10-4s.
I wonder how scarce my 10-4 5" barrel is ? The only one I've seen or heard of sits in my safe.
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I wonder how scarce my 10-4 5" barrel is ? The only one I've seen or heard of sits in my safe.
It is not easy to tell for several reasons. The standard reference states about 75000 C prefix revolvers per year were built in 1961-'62, a good start. But there is no way to know how many of these were 10-2s or -4s (probably the majority?), 10-1s or -3s (4" heavy barrel), 12-1s or -2s (Airweights)...you probably get the point.

The factory or a few senior S & W collectors 'may' have these data available, but they may simply be recorded as "model 10s" produced. It is not as though the factory was thinking about preserving such information for us decades later, it was just trying to push a quality product out the door as quickly as possible.
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It is not easy to tell for several reasons. The standard reference states about 75000 C prefix revolvers per year were built in 1961-'62, a good start. But there is no way to know how many of these were 10-2s or -4s (probably the majority?), 10-1s or -3s (4" heavy barrel), 12-1s or -2s (Airweights)...you probably get the point.

The factory or a few senior S & W collectors 'may' have these data available, but they may simply be recorded as "model 10s" produced. It is not as though the factory was thinking about preserving such information for us decades later, it was just trying to push a quality product out the door as quickly as possible.
Is there a ]way to know how long the runs of the 1 through 4 models lasted (example: -1's ran from January to April, -2's ran March to July, etc) and extrapolate a ballpark number? Were "C" prefix numbers limited to just the Model-10 series or were they on other K-frame models too?

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It has/had a few pitting/rust spots, but it was a police gun, so I think of them as character marks.

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While the value might not be much different than other Model 10's, a buyer looking for one to fill a hole in his collection just might kick in a couple extra dollars.
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This is a 4-Screw Model 10-2 service revolver that was originally shipped to the Seattle Police Department. The factory letter shows that it shipped to the SPD on May 16, 1962. It has a pinned barrel and the grips number to the revolver. It has an excellent bore, locks-up tight, functions perfectly, is a pleasure to shoot , and is quite accurate as well.
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Is there a ]way to know how long the runs of the 1 through 4 models lasted (example: -1's ran from January to April, -2's ran March to July, etc) and extrapolate a ballpark number? Were "C" prefix numbers limited to just the Model-10 series or were they on other K-frame models too?

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It has/had a few pitting/rust spots, but it was a police gun, so I think of them as character marks.
It may be possible to find out the date when factory engineering changes were ordered (i.e., to stop model 10s and start 10-2s), but it doesn't mean every gun made after that date was a -2. They would use up old parts until they were gone and not necessarily in order of assembly.
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I thought one of the 10-1 to 10-4 engineering changes lasted only 4-6 months. Somewhere in the past I read it here. Have a 10-3 hvy bbl that was carried but not shot much. Also have a friends gun in the safe that's a 10-4 with a 6" tapered bbl that is almost mint that I will sell for him. He has Alzheimer's and his wife could use the money. They get a little more money then the standard model 10's and more in the higher conditions.
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The 10 no dash to the 10-4 are seldom seen.

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Thank you for that Alan. Most people write "this data" as if the word "data" were singular. "These data" is correct, since the singular is "datum."
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