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Old 04-14-2012, 09:06 PM
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If you had both a S&W 19-2 & 19-3, both in 98% condition, and could only keep one, which one would you keep and why?
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If you had both a S&W 19-2 & 19-3, both in 98% condition, and could only keep one, which one would you keep and why?
I would keep the dash two, because for me, the older the better.
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I would keep the dash two also. If the only difference is one is older, I would keep the older one.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:17 AM
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Looks like a slam dunk - the older the better.

That's with guns - not so much with women
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Unless they are unfired, they have limited Collector value, so I would keep the one that is in the best condition.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:57 AM
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It depends on condition of both. I had a 19-2 and 19-4. The -2 was in better condition so I sold the -4.
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I would keep the one YOU wanted to keep.
Actually-I would keep both and get ElPasso to build me a double rig so I could wear them both to the BBQ.
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All things being equal keep the -2. There really isn't any practical difference between them though, only a slight difference in the position of the rear sight leaf screw.
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Thanks for the replies. I think I will keep the 19-2. It has the TH & TT while the 19-3 has the SH & ST. I know that back in the old days, S&W made model changes to improve or eliminate problems, and wondered if the change from 19-2 t0 19-3 made the 19-3 a better gun.
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Actually-I would keep both and get ElPaso to build me a double rig so I could wear them both to the BBQ.
yep... me too
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Thanks for the replies. I think I will keep the 19-2. It has the TH & TT while the 19-3 has the SH & ST. I know that back in the old days, S&W made model changes to improve or eliminate problems, and wondered if the change from 19-2 t0 19-3 made the 19-3 a better gun.
The TT and TH were extra cost options but that does not make it a better gun.
For me, if a S&W is a revolver I want for hunting or target shooting then the TT and TH are preferable since they lend themselves to better single action shooting. The Target Trigger especially is more cumbersome for good Double-action work, hence it becomes a negative factor on a defensive gun.

If these Model 19s are 6" guns then I'd lean toard the one with the TH and TT. If 2.5" guns then the standard controls would be the strong preference.
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Unless they are unfired, they have limited Collector value, so I would keep the one that is in the best condition.
Now wait just one cotton pick'n minute there partner!

Limited collector value? Why them's fight'n words round these parts!

But seriously, have you seen whats left out there? It's not very often I come across a NICE 19 anymore. They all look like they were used for a roof'n hammer!

Well pampered 19's fetch a premium if you can find one. The last 2 I saw at the local "Shoot em up" store were in "fair" condition at best. They were asking $650 each and wouldn't budge on price.

Went back 2 weeks later and they were both gone. Guy at store said they were sold in 4 days. Said a guy bought both and couldn't believe how lucky he was to find one, let alone two of them!

S&W 19...........It's up to us to save em!

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Old 04-15-2012, 02:11 PM
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I forgot to mention that both have four inch barrels and target stocks.
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Now wait just one cotton pick'n minute there partner!

Limited collector value? Why them's fight'n words round these parts!

But seriously, have you seen whats left out there? It's not very often I come across a NICE 19 anymore. They all look like they were used for a roof'n hammer!

Well pampered 19's fetch a premium if you can find one. The last 2 I saw at the local "Shoot em up" store were in "fair" condition at best. They were asking $650 each and wouldn't budge on price.

Went back 2 weeks later and they were both gone. Guy at store said they were sold in 4 days. Said a guy bought both and couldn't believe how lucky he was to find one, let alone two of them!

S&W 19...........It's up to us to save em!

Stay safe out there and God bless.
Just yesterday at a show I saw 2 model 19s in 2 1/2". They wanted $659 and $729. They were -4s. These were well used, with lots of bluing wear/scratches. Looked like someone took a file to the ejector rod on one of them.I'm shocked what they are asking for smiths in this condition. At best a glove box slammer for half the price i'd think.
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If you have the time do a little reading on the "Ultimate Combat Magnum thread" before choosing.
Here is a link in case you are interested:

The ultimate Model 19/66 Combat Magnum thread


You should be aware that the most notable change incorporated in the dash 3 revision (and some late 19-2's) was the relocation of the rear site screw away from the area that is most subseptable to flame cutting.

While the 19-3 is worth a little less if you prefer the more robust design you should reconsider it,
Also, selling the 19-2 with original stocks would put more cash in your pocket.

I would keep the 19-2 to look at and the 19-3 to shoot.

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How about some pictures of them?
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Keep the -2, it should have diamond stocks.
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I would start selling blood and collecting cans before I part with a Combat Magnum. If this is something serious like a medical issue then I would see about selling it to a GOOD friend who might let me buy it back when money isn't so tight. If this is just a "I don't need two of the same gun" kind of thing then I bet less than a week later you regret giving it up.
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I just picked up a S & W model 19-3 with 6 inch barrel and fully dressed; red ramp, white outline sights, wide target trigger and hammer, along with the target stocks. Got it for a song of a price. Can't find shipping or manufacture date. Serial number 9 k 697xx. And it has that deep mirror blue and the hammer has the case hardening effects. A beautiful gun. wish I had a true value on it. One gun guru in my area said it should be in the 700 to 1000.00 range. Let's hear from the experts as I have no clue. Have orininal box and tools as well. Thanks.
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I just picked up a S & W model 19-3 with 6 inch barrel
Serial number 9 k 697xx
The book says 1976, but there are definite indications that this gun dates to 1977 (SCSW is not always precise).

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I think four figures is a little bit high for one with a 6" barrel. I'm not sure even the 2 1/2" will command quite that much right now. At least around here, $700 would be about the top of the market for what you described.

Still a nice acquisition. The 19-3 is an excellent piece. Here's a photo of two of mine:
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I'm a bit of a fan of the 19-2. This 6" shoots very well and is a joy to look at. The non-relieved diamond targets aren't original, but they came with the gun and there they stay.
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I just picked up a S & W model 19-3 with 6 inch barrel and fully dressed; red ramp, white outline sights, wide target trigger and hammer, along with the target stocks. Got it for a song of a price. Can't find shipping or manufacture date. Serial number 9 k 697xx. And it has that deep mirror blue and the hammer has the case hardening effects. A beautiful gun. wish I had a true value on it. One gun guru in my area said it should be in the 700 to 1000.00 range. Let's hear from the experts as I have no clue. Have orininal box and tools as well. Thanks.
Your local guru might not be too much off the mark on value in Virginia, especially NoVA. Going by what I've seen at the Chantilly shows and the Southern PA shows, a full-option 19 with box and tools would easily bring $800 and quite likely as much as $1,000. If you could find one. Saw a near-perfect 4" 19-3, no options, no box or tools, for $800. A week later it was gone, gone, gone for $775.
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Your local guru might not be too much off the mark on value in Virginia, especially NoVA. Going by what I've seen at the Chantilly shows and the Southern PA shows, a full-option 19 with box and tools would easily bring $800 and quite likely as much as $1,000. If you could find one. Saw a near-perfect 4" 19-3, no options, no box or tools, for $800. A week later it was gone, gone, gone for $775.
Now this is interesting. I've been watching these sorts of comments for a while and I'm beginning to think that the Mississippi River is more than a geographical dividing point. Out West and in Alaska, prices on most older S&W revolvers tend to be lower than what I see you guys posting for East Coast prices.
Obviously, California belongs in the east, however.
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I've got a Mod 19 that I carried as a duty weapon in the 1970s and I have been thinking about selling it. It has slight holster wear but otherwise its a fine weapon. After reading all these comments maybe I won't sell it after all. My wife bought me this gun shortly after I joined the PD in 1971. I can't remember what she payed for it but I'm shocked at even the low end prices you're talking about. I guess I'm just getting old.
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Since no other smart-A has said it, I will. You should keep the -3 and send the -2 to me.
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My wife bought me this gun shortly after I joined the PD in 1971. I can't remember what she payed for it
Two comments:
1. Guns my wife buys for me don't get sold! For example, I have a 6" Highway Patrolman she picked up for me one time when I was out of town on business. It's a "duplicate" in my collection and in lesser condition than my other one. But it is not going anywhere except the range or the field with me!
2. If your wife bought that one new in 1971, she probably paid around $150 or less for it. In 1969, they were going for somewhere in the $135 range, IIRC. By 1976, retail had gone up to a whopping $167.50, according to my bicentennial Shooter's Bible.

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I Know you're right about selling something that my wife gave me and helped keep me alive. I guess I'll sell that cheap *** SKS that's been sitting around. I bought it new packed in grease years ago for$75. Its had about a half dozen rounds shot through it and I never liked it any way and there are no sentimental attachments to it. And thanks for the welcome It's an interesting forum.
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