i noticed in some of those posted scene grabs the M37's have sling swivels. I'm pretty sure that LAPD 37's did not use them, would OIF2 or any of the City of Los Angeles's finest care to comment ?

They packed a lot of action into each episode. OTOH, how many people would turn in to watch 22 minutes of barking dog complaints and report writing?

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I'll keep shooting Dad's 15-2 .... It will be interesting to watch the auction though and see what it actually goes for...

That episode was on today. I watched it. Bob

Saw it for the first time today myself!

The newer Model 87 should not be able to slam fire,

The Model 37 has a slide release lever on the right front of the trigger guard, using the trigger finger it is pulled backwards (like the trigger) to release the bolt and cycle the action allowing an unfired round to be ejected through the port in the bottom of the gun, This lever is also used to cycle a cocked M37 with an empty chamber (Not by dry firing the gun) because if pressure is applied to the Model 37 trigger while closing the action the hammer will AUTOMATICALLY FIRE once the bolt locks into battery discharging the newly chambered round .

If a shooter is in 870 mode when loading a cocked M37 with an empty chamber and dry fires the gun to release the bolt then cycles a live round into the chamber while holding the trigger back .....KABOOM !

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I love this show.

Its actually what got me "hooked" on S&W!

What TV and a imagination will do to a five year old.

Good to know, thanks.

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Some had them, some didn't. The newer 870s do have them. I was issued a shotgun on a fixed post after the riots (roof security, Hollywood Division) that had a sling. Kind of stupid to have a shotgun with buckshot for roof security, but sometimes management doesn't think the particulars out when they check the blocks.
Bob

Yep I remember when a deputy using regulation 00 buckshot killed the bad guy and the media went bonkers so administration said let's change to #4 buckshot so that the survivability increases.

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I've noticed while watching some of the episodes recently that Reed was always the shotgun guy and he seemed somewhat ambidextrous with it and his K38, especially when moving around corners.
For anyone that wants to look at the Gunbroker auction:
Martin Milner's ADAM-12 Smith & Wesson Model 15-3 : Other Collectible Guns at GunBroker.com

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Gawd. What an inanity. Whether the recipient of a justified shooting lives or dies is simply not relevant or important. Command officers who do stuff like that should be fired for incompetence/dereliction. (And #4 is iffy in LE service anyway, at least in the patrol function.) My training (1989, in Illinois) was that slugs are the default and buck of any size is a specialized, limited use round. If one has a rifle too, then buck might be ok, but I really prefer slugs due to the possible used against offenders in cars.

As for Reed being the guy who got the shotgun, I suspect it is because that as passenger, he could at least theoretically retrieve it from the rack, charge up, replace that round in the magazine, and be ready to go while coming in to the scene. A lot easier for the passenger to do that while the driver is getting them into position. Done that a bunch.

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Now that's neat. That will make somebody a nice addition to their collection.

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Great topic. Watching Adam 12 now on my side job.....

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M-37's issued to patrol by the Department armorer did not have slings as they interfered with the horizontal rack's lock. At least that's what I was told at the time. I think there was just no money budgeted for the work. Specialized units like Metropolitan Division or Special Investigations Section had some slings added by the Metro armorer.

I used to love Adam 12. When I started LE in 1977, we still carried revolvers. Being away from the urban areas, we actually carried .357s with magnum ammo. I didn't buy a 19/66 until I'd been on the department for a couple of years. I started with the M28. As you can see from the photo, it was almost bigger than me.

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There was a disagreement about the number of shotguns and whether there was a rack in the trunk. I saw an episode today called "El Presidente" and both Reed and Malloy carry shotguns to the car and Reed puts his in a rack in the trunk and Malloy puts his in front of the seat. May have been inaccurate but on the show there were two racks and two shotguns.

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It has been a long time ago but I do remember some cars having shotgun racks attached to the front seat and in the trunk. A few of the Adam 12 episodes were used as training films at the academy in 1970/71.

If only I had some serious disposable income! What a piece!!!

One of the first episodes involved a dead liquor store clerk during a "211"?

The suspect was dragged off as he yelled, "all we wanted was a bottle a wine!"

Kinda realistic on behavior of such----this sort of thing came to a halt real quick---seems PC swept in -----portraying some people in a bad light got the thumbs down. Thus, suspects behavior never again was anything but very calm, generic, etc.

I miss Adam-12. All the cop shows we have now are just so stupid and silly.

10 large...even.

Fun auction to watch!

Hard to believe they would expect more than 10 G's.

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Watching Log 51 "Jumper Code 2" and it starts out in the parking lot behind the station. Regular evening tour, Reed and Malloy walk out each with a shot gun. Brinkman and his partner come out, Brinkman carry both shotguns.

I'd say, at least in the show, two shot guns was SOP. In real life? Who knows?

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It went up to $10,000 before the auction ended. The reserve price wasn't met. I wonder what they think the gun's worth.

You have to wonder. I thinking somewhere between $15,000 - $20,000. Just going off of some of the prices I've seen recently. Who knows they may still get it. Just not through an Internet auction.

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Hello Snowman.45. In the picture of you with your model 28 it appears that the holster you are wearing resembles a Bianchi model 27 Breakfront. I had one when I carried my 28 as an armed security officer in the early 1980s.

My dad was an Idaho State Trooper for 21 years (73-94) and I remember when ISP went to the Bianchi Model 27 holster.The year was 1979 when ISP switched from the Model 28 to the Model 65. At the time the design was considered to be revolutionary. I now have dad's holster. Lots of fun.

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I've got a Model 15 with Fuzzy's. It's this I'd like to have ...

I was watching an episode tonight and noticed that they had a buffing wheel in the locker room to shine up the badges before going on duty. Malloy is shown using it. It made me laugh. Was any department ever that spit shine and polish serious that they would provide a buffing wheel and expect you to use it before hitting the street?

Back in those days Police Departments were para-military. Most if not all of the senior officers/ supervisors and above were ex-servicemen. Appearance was a very big thing. Sadly a lot of that has gone by the way side (at least in my parts). Spit and polish was the order of the day. Officers were inspected before hitting the road.

For anyone interested in the history of the Los Angles Police Department there is a new book out that is very well done.

"Guardians of Angels" , by James A. Bultema

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Ben Cartwright's daughter? Adam, Boss & little Joes sister?

Sorry I just couldn't help myself.

Yes, there was (and still is) a buffing wheel in every station locker room. If your badge is dirty, you'll be gigged in roll call inspection. If you're a probationer, God help you if your training officer sees it first. While the NYPD prides itself on how grungy a veteran copper looks (shows time on the job, I guess), the LAPD went in the other direction. Most training officers were (and are) immaculate before hitting the streets.
Bob

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They were long before then, and still are. What the Balko-ite moonbats claim is simply so much low quality fertilizer. Those old style 2 piece uniforms like LAPD's were derived from military class As, and this can be shown through many generations of evolving LE uniforms. They were modeled on relatively recent military uniforms.

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Many at all ranks were; a significant number still are. There are things they can bring to the table, but not everything translates directly. The context is very different.

While there is cosmetic appeal to LAPD's uniforms and others of that style, there are serious issues with the 2 piece class A style for patrol work. They simply are not functional outside of the office setting, and are very expensive to maintain. It's also hard to keep these looking good. I do not like seeing officers take advantage of realistic uniform policies and letting their jumpsuit or other working gear look shabby. When I see tears, worn spots and the like, it grinds on me, and I am not at all one of the fashion fetishists.

Someone mentioned above that the characters drew a lot. That is largely driven by the Hollywood mindset, of course, but there were and are a lot of very rough areas in LA. A friend of mine came out of that LE environment, and he draws a lot on circumstances that he perceives as odd. I've met a bunch of officers from places like that, and most act that way.

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I thought I was cool with my high capacity semi autos until I experienced their constant jamming during rapid fire.

After being let down enough times I went back to my revolvers.

It's kind of like finally giving up on that pretty girl you're dating cause she just keeps treating you bad.

I'd rather have a "sure" 6 shots that a "maybe" 15

I had that problem with one - it was a relatively new model and the magazines were badly flawed. I worked with the shop manager on the flaws, they redesigned and replaced every mag they had made. Thereafter, dead nuts reliable - well over 800 rounds of various duty and ball loads between cleanings without a malf. ("A stoppage in the feed cycle is a malfunction. Jam goes on toast." - Pat Rogers) There is no excuse for that kind of problem with a reasonably modern design of quality manufacture. An autopistol (or rifle) that will not go 1000 rounds without a malf between cleanings, but with some lube if needed, is not acceptable. I'll admit that there are certain autopistols I would not own or carry, and in fact when one agency was recruiting me as a reserve and I found out what they issued and mandated, I declined.

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