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Old 12-16-2012, 07:06 PM
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Want to add to my collection. I really like of 3 - 4 " barrels. Would a model 57 be good? Any advice is appreciated.
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YES, the 57 would be very good. The 58 would be Very GOOD, if you can find one. 57 has adjustable rear sights, 58 fixed sights. 58 was not made many years. Then there is the 657 if you want stainless. No 3" barrels in these though, as far as I know.
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I own a new production 58. It's very accurate and a joy to shoot. It's one of my favorite Smiths.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:02 PM
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I own a new production 58. It's very accurate and a joy to shoot. It's one of my favorite Smiths.
I don't particularly like locks on my guns... call me "old fashion"
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OK, your "old fashioned"

657s were made in 2 5/8", 3" and two different 4" barrels (heavy and MG).









Model 57s were offered in 4" blue or nickel. I have a blue, but no individual
picture of it. It is here in an old 41 Magnum group photo.



There is also a 4" model 57 Mountain Gun, but it has a lock.



Then if you are looking to carry all day, there are the 4" 357PD and 2 1/2"
357NG. Being newer designs these also are shipped with the lock





Sorry that I can not provide any model 58 images, they just ever interested
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I have two 4" 41 mags, a model 57 P & R, and a model 657-4 Mountain gun. The 4" 41 magnum is a great gun. I lucked into the Mountain Gun here in the classifieds from a fellow forum member just as I was beginning to look for one. The 4" 41's are not inexpensive, but I think you will be very happy if you get one. The 57 no dash is a great old classic, and is beautiful. Great guns, both of them. wyatte

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heres a 58



some more 41s

57
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The 4" 57 or 58 are great choices. The 57 is more readily available and comes in either blue or nickel. The 58 only has the blue finish and is a little harder to find. Either is well worth the search.
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I love the 41 but be advised, if you do not handload ammo can be expensive and may be hard to find.
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wonderful caliber...i have a 7'5"657,6"57,3"657which is my carry gun and a 4"57...all are a pleasure to shoot with about 20%less recoil over the 44mag.
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Respectfully , the 58 came in nickel also.

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^^^^^

Good stuff there.

I guess I could have done myself a favor and just gone with the 41 instead of the 38s ,357s and then the 44.

Nah .
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I'd say a 4'' blued 57-2 or lower. Then, a blued 58.

You can do SO much with a 4'' 57. For me, I'd say it is very close to a, as Taffin would say, a perfect packing pistol.
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The short answer: the one that is available at a good price!
I am personally partial to Smiths with adjustable sights, so I would prefer a Model 57. But either one will make a good addition to your line of S&W revolvers.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:46 PM
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I'd sure look seriously at a Model 57 no-dash. I love mine, and it's been alot of places, is superbly accurate:



I cut the factory grips down to fit my hand, rounded the edges for carry.
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If you come across a Dan Wesson .41 take a look at it, the most accurate big bore hand gun I ever shot is a DW .41 mag.
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Not too long ago my LGS had these for $599 in nickel. I picked up a new S&W M58 w/4" barrel and a new S&W M57 w/6" barrel both in 41mag and in nickel. You have to have both models. I'm new to the S&W revolvers and always wanted the larger N frames. Shooting the S&W M58 in 41mag is awesome. The only problem is i want to get more.

BTW; Both of these have the loc and i have no problems with them yet.
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YES, the 57 would be very good. The 58 would be Very GOOD, if you can find one. 57 has adjustable rear sights, 58 fixed sights. 58 was not made many years. Then there is the 657 if you want stainless. No 3" barrels in these though, as far as I know.
I'm not sure how long my LGS has had the S&W M58 in 41mag but he also had the S&W M24 in 44 special all with the loc's too. What year was the loc first offered?
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:12 PM
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Good stuff there.

I guess I could have done myself a favor and just gone with the 41 instead of the 38s ,357s and then the 44.

Nah .
You have to have the S&W 38's, the S&W 357's and the S&W 41mag besides the S&W 44mags too. I feel i can't have just a few i have to have them all to play with.
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I'm not sure how long my LGS has had the S&W M58 in 41mag but he also had the S&W M24 in 44 special all with the loc's too. What year was the loc first offered?
I think the 58-1 with the four screw sideplate and IL came out about four years ago in blue and nickel. Nickel has since been dropped.

As to having .38s, .357s and .44s...naaaaaa. I could be very happy with just a 4" .41 of any kind...but really like the 657 Mountain Gun for a gun that does everything needed in a Big Gun.

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I would get a Model 57, I prefer having adjustable sights in case I want to take it out hunting.
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reloading is a must if you want to shoot them very much.
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Haven't been on here for quite awhile and loved seeing your post. My very first S&W was a 6.5" 57 in the presentation box I bought for myself as a grad present for 225.00 IMS. I could have bought a 4" model 29 for twice the money. It was not the best FIRST handgun to own as I developed a bad flinch from it. I now have 8 .41 mags, going from a no IL 3" model 657 to a 8 3/8" model 57 and one model 58. All are no IL's as I saw with my own eyes a model 686 lock itself up 4 years ago.

My 6.5" original is my sentimental favorite. I carried it in Kodiak and Sitka Alaska with some 220 gr. LSWC SSK handloads that J.D. Jones loaded up for me for bears. I watched him shoot groundhogs as a kid with his wildcats on a neighbors farm and he got me into a .375 JDJ barrel for my Contender. Great carry combo as I shot a nice Billy with the .375 from 125 paces and it was good for one shot on a charging bear. That's all you'll get from watching them run! Goat meat is delicious and you have to try it. I carried the two in Alaska after a couple of years as I got tired of humping mountains and going through alder patches with my Ruger .338 Win Mag who's weight made climbing hard and it's barrel getting caught in brush constantly. That 57 has now taken 52 deer since 1976. Last one was a 20 yard head shot and it was lights out with no meat damage. Them hard cast bullets WILL shoot stem to stern on a deer, but I use them sparingly. Had to send it back for maintenance as it was severely out of time but is a very accurate revolver to this day. I notched the grip on it for every deer.

If I was to pick just ONE .41 mag it would be a 4". Can do just about anything, is easy to pack (I like crossdraw or shoulder holsters) and my two are extremely accurate like the rest. The 8 3/8 is a tack driver but not made for carry IMO. Stainless is the better finish for rough usage, but I'm partial to blue. If you maintain it well the finish holds up well and the wear marks are beauty marks IMO.

My favorite to carry is my 3" 657. I keep it loaded with Speer 210 gr. Gold Dots when out hiking, hunting or camping. Lose a little velocity but they will take down a deer with ease and would do the same to the diots out there who might do you harm. I also pack it in the winter with them Gold Dots when everyone is bundled up.

Is true ammo is not as readily available, but Speer and Buffalo Bore make some terrific ammo for it. Georgia Arms also has loads for it. For less than $200.00 one can buy a RCBS reloading set and start homebrewing their own. Great wintertime hobby and makes for cheap and finely tuned ammo.

I would NOT trade or sell any of my .41's for a .44. Owned four .44's and my .41's can do everything they can do with the right bullet/load and a good accurate shot without the recoil. I need to update my pics but here are a few of my .41's. A round that never took off but is one kick butt caliber and with more folks like yourself the manufacturers may take notice!

Merry Christmas and good luck on the .41!

My 3" no IL 657. Puma stilletto is a mini.


Rest of the tribe but missing a few (4).


Me in my younger day having fun. Have 2741 hours flying and jumping out of Coast Guard helos. Saw most of Alaska and the Carribean in them. The best job I was ever paid for!



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I have a 57 Mountain Gun. It is my favorite revolver.
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Great post Sportsterguy!
I just bought a 57 and have been thoroughly enjoying this thread. I reload so all I need to get is a die set. A buddy also has a 58 - one of the reasons I brought the 57 - I loved firing his gun. It was cheap too! $500 OTD.
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I don't particularly like locks on my guns... call me "old fashion"
Just remove it and store using some other type of lock, such as padlock around the topstrap or better yet - in a vault. The hole is good for that occasional drop of lube - don't overdo the lube. The key lock is not designed to be locked when it is carried or ready for use anyway, so if you use an alternate method of securing it and can explain it, I cannot see the difference. I imagine there are many who will argue with me on this point, but everyone is entitled to an opinion.

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For some reason I really like the Light Hunter 657.
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A Model 58 would be my first choice in a .41 Mag.
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Sportsterguy:

Did you ever take a ruler or tape measure to your "6-1/2 inch" Model 57?
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Did you ever take a ruler or tape measure to your "6-1/2 inch" Model 57?
No sir I haven't. Was told the earlier no dash's came with a 6.5" barrel if measured from the forcing cone to the muzzle. I'll get the tape measure out later and check it out. I do know this, them deer never knew the .5" difference! The longest shot I took one with was 130 paces from a rest and had much younger and sharper eyes.

I now keep my shots below 50 yards with my rangefinder for a clean shot. I always use a rest if possible as I would hate to track a wounded or gut shot a majestic animal such as a deer. When I'm shooting groundhogs I'll take a 150+ yard shots for them tractor flipping rodents. Most are misses, but the occassional hit really makes my day!
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My friend and fellow forum member Leland has one for sale as we speak at one of the gun auction sites. It is a nickle 4" 57-0. It's a nice gun. I know, I used to own it.
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OK, your "old fashioned"

657s were made in 2 5/8", 3" and two different 4" barrels (heavy and MG).









Model 57s were offered in 4" blue or nickel. I have a blue, but no individual
picture of it. It is here in an old 41 Magnum group photo.



There is also a 4" model 57 Mountain Gun, but it has a lock.



Then if you are looking to carry all day, there are the 4" 357PD and 2 1/2"
357NG. Being newer designs these also are shipped with the lock





Sorry that I can not provide any model 58 images, they just ever interested
me as firearms
That collection amazes me every time sir! What's with the Colt and the hogleg 686? Both are lookers and one of my recent .41 buys was a hogleg 657 like yours with an unfluted cylinder. It is the MOST acurate S&W I've ever owned. Another addition was a no IL MG. Great carry revolver but has some snap to it.

Too bad you don't have a 58 for that fine collection. It would compliment your others very nicely. I had a beautiful and pristine nickel 58 that I sold like an idiot up in Alaska. I carried it in a hoster I stitched to my rubber boots for easy access if a bear got to me before I could draw my 57 or get a shot off with the .338 Ruger Contender. It never rusted or suffered any damage being exposed completely to the elements and it took a few complete dunks when crossing some small rivers. The day I sold it I had sellers remorse as not only was it a shooter but I had the original box and fixins. I ended up replacing it two years ago with a blued model off of a buddy on here and am glad I did. It shoots my 210 LSWC's loaded with 7.0-7.5 grains of Unique dead on. The Gold Dots shoot 2 inches low and left. I bought 50 Gold Dot bullets and with the Unique 7.0 load it shoots dead on, so it has to be the powder and is much easier on the hand. After the first cylinder from the 58 with them beautiful magnas (IMO) I swapped them out for a set of full coverage Pacs that I always use for hard kickers. Much better on the hand! I don't shoot it much but do love wiping it down on my monthly wipedowns.

That is one great collection and one day I may catch up to you if you quit buying them up and my daughters stop having Grandbabies (We spoil them). I definately need a carbine for my collection as it would make a fantastic deer rifle and I've a fantastic combo.

Stay safe and Merry Chistmas to you and the rest of you .41 mag fans!
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I looked a long time and finally found this 57-0 in North Pole Alaska and never looked back. Had a chance to trade for a 657 Mountain Gun recently but, turned them down flat.

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Love the 57's and 58's and have neither. Hope to one day. Hard to really justify, since I have a bunch of other N frames of both 4" and 6". My only .41 is a Ruger BH in 4 5/8" that I hunt with.

Have often thought that the definition of 'near perfection' (IMO) would be a 5" 57 or 657.
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Both the M57 and M58 are great Smiths. Personally, I like the M58, but I am a sucker for fixed sight Smiths. Just like the clean look of them. If it were me, I would look for the best deal on either the M57 or the M58. While both are getting relatively hard to find, the M58 is the more difficult one to find, in my opinion. I have both the M57 and the M58, as stated earlier, my favorite is the M58.




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S&W no longer offers the nickel finish?? I'm happy i purchased the new S&W M58, M57 and M24 in nickel the past year. I did want everything else new in nickel finish.
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