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Old 02-25-2013, 10:33 PM
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In my search for my first revolver, I found this......

Please forgive the ****** cell pics (I don't own a camera)..





































It's a Model 64 "No Dash", Pinned tapered 4" bbl, Square butt with original matching grips.

Now this might not be the Holy Grail but, it is for me! I love this revo, it shoots as good as it looks!

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Old 02-25-2013, 10:38 PM
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Thats a nice find there. They are great shooters.
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Cylinder isn't recessed, but no .38 specials were.

Nice first gun!
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I wish my ****** pictures looked half that good!
Nice find,congrats
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Cylinder isn't recessed, but no .38 specials were.

Nice first gun!
OK, school me on this.....I thought this meant it was recessed? (see pic, ejector recessed into cylinder)

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Nice 4" Model 64. These were fine handguns.
And nice pics. I enjoyed looking at them.
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OK, school me on this.....I thought this meant it was recessed? (see pic, ejector recessed into cylinder.
On the recessed cylinders, the charge holes were counterbored so that the rim of the cartridge case was fully enclosed and supported by the steel of the cylinder.
This was only done for magnum cartridges - .357, .41 and .44. Also for the rimfires from the mid-1930s onward.

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You did real well. That revolver will do most anything you could ask of it. Properly cared for, it will last 100+ years. Change the stocks, pick the right ammo, and anyone from eight to eighty years old can shoot it.
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Congratulations on your "new" Model 64, and am glad to hear you're shooting and enjoying it. I touched the front sight of mine up with some Testor's model paint as I found the stainless sight wasn't prominent enough for my older eyes in many lighting situations. I used fluorescent orange paint over a single coat of white paint. This combo really makes the orange pop. Thanks for your post and pictures,

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On the recessed cylinders, the charge holes were counterbored so that the rim of the cartridge case was fully enclosed and supported by the steel of the cylinder.
This was only done for magnum cartridges - .357, .41 and .44. Also for the rimfires from the mid-1930s onward.

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Oh ok, I get it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:31 PM
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Thanks everyone! I've shot over 150 rounds through it this past Saturday and it is way more accurate than me. I have ordered some Wolff springs to get the DA pull down a bit, alltho it is smooth as butter. The SA is perfect! This is my new favorite pistol in my arsenal, I just can't wait to hit the range again.
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:35 PM
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Congratulations on your "new" Model 64, and am glad to hear you're shooting and enjoying it. I touched the front sight of mine up with some Testor's model paint as I found the stainless sight wasn't prominent enough for my older eyes in many lighting situations. I used fluorescent orange paint over a single coat of white paint. This combo really makes the orange pop. Thanks for your post and pictures,

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Yes, I usually use some white under florecent orange nail polish on all my front sights. So, this one will get the same treatment.
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that is one fine looking S&W .38 special revolver. the model 64 is one of my favorites.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:27 AM
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I have always wanted one of those.... hard to find, When I was a kid, I wore off the blue finish to my dads 10-5. Since then I wanted one in stainless. I can't abide the look of a m&p without a pencil barrel.
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I love K frame .38's! The three in my safe (15-3, 10-5, 64-6) all shoot like match guns. They're robust and easy to shoot well. Great find.

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Thanks everyone! I've shot over 150 rounds through it this past Saturday and it is way more accurate than me. I have ordered some Wolff springs to get the DA pull down a bit, alltho it is smooth as butter. The SA is perfect! This is my new favorite pistol in my arsenal, I just can't wait to hit the range again.
Wolff makes good springs, but I advise against replacing springs with lighter. Lighter mainspring will increase lock time, and decrease impact force. A lighter rebound spring makes the trigger return sluggish. All bad things, in my opinion, plus it will make the gun questionably reliable.

I would really leave it as-is, and shoot some more.
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I have the same gun with the heavy barrel and it is a favorite. Another vote for leave them springs alone. If it is truly "smooth as butter" and ignites primers reliably do not mess with it. You have a very a nice revolver, but it is not target grade completion gun. You, or somebody else may have to use it to repel boarders some day and a hard primer could ruin the whole affair for you. Shoot, enjoy, repeat. Oh, and those are some pretty nice ****** cell phone pics, better than I can do with a real camera.

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Wonderful looking revolver!
I would love to own exactly the same, would be nice next to my model 67 with pencil barrel. One with and one without adjustable sight.
How is the point of impact?
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Wolff makes good springs, but I advise against replacing springs with lighter. Lighter mainspring will increase lock time, and decrease impact force. A lighter rebound spring makes the trigger return sluggish. All bad things, in my opinion, plus it will make the gun questionably reliable.

I would really leave it as-is, and shoot some more.
Roger that but, I'm going to try it. If I have issues, I can always go back to factory. Plus, im a tinkerer so I have to do something to it.....its the law! LOL...
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I have the same gun with the heavy barrel and it is a favorite. Another vote for leave them springs alone. If it is truly "smooth as butter" and ignites primers reliably do not mess with it. You have a very a nice revolver, but it is not target grade completion gun. You, or somebody else may have to use it to repel boarders some day and a hard primer could ruin the whole affair for you. Shoot, enjoy, repeat. Oh, and those are some pretty nice ****** cell phone pics, better than I can do with a real camera.
This 64 is going to be primarily a safe queen and range plinking pistol. As mentioned above, if it is not reliable like it is now (sort of, I will explain in a bit.) I can always return it to OEM.

Towards the end of my range session I started to have ftf issues. The cylinder was locking up upon pulling the trigger and not allowing to advance to the next round. I popped open the side plate and operated the action to find the cylinder lock was not releasing about 40% of the time (after about 125 rounds). So, looks like I need a new spring for the lock mechanism. So, I figured why not try the Wolff spring kit...?. I do not plan on stoning the action on this revo, just play around with the springs.

Thanks for the pic compliments....I know I can do better with a real camera tho.
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Wonderful looking revolver!
I would love to own exactly the same, would be nice next to my model 67 with pencil barrel. One with and one without adjustable sight.
How is the point of impact?
I've only shot steel plates, but it is hitting where I'm aiming. I'll have to do a paper test to see if its dead nuts, tho.
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I dig the pencil barrel, very classy.
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I like it. The very few that I see, all look like they were dragged behind a truck. Nice find.
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What a great find at a pawn shop, it sure is clean and looks like new. Have fun with it, should make a great plinker.
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Just like mine, except mine has a round butt, Bought it in Italy in early 70s. Still like it.
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Absolutely beautiful gun! "Lucky" might be a good name for her.
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Beautiful revolver! I have a new 64 with the bull barrel. I like it a lot. There is a bit of creep in my trigger I am going to stone it but not replace springs. I have used Wolf springs in the past and have had ignition issues. Even with Federal primers. If you never plan on using it as a defense weapon then go for it. But if there is the off chance that you will I would advise keeping it stock as others have.
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Just like mine, except mine has a round butt, Bought it in Italy in early 70s. Still like it.
You have a 4" Model 64 with a round butt?

This I gotta see! Please post pics for all to see. I've been wanting to pick up a "beater" and turn it into a round butt just to have something different. I've actually got a "beater" Model 67 in the works.
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When I started shooting revolvers I changed the springs to lighten them.

Then the more I shot the more I found the stock weights were actually better, now I can't stand a slow trigger return.

So more often than not, when I buy a used revolver, I find my self replacing filed strain screws and clipped rebound springs all the time. Actually undoing what someone has done to lighten the trigger.

Smooth is much better than light once you get used to a DA trigger, besides after 10,000 or so rounds and dry fires the springs lighten themselves anyway.

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Nice purchase and great Pics !
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You have a 4" Model 64 with a round butt?

This I gotta see! Please post pics for all to see. I've been wanting to pick up a "beater" and turn it into a round butt just to have something different. I've actually got a "beater" Model 67 in the works.
Like this?

A $210 SOSS Beater Ohio prison gun that cleaned up nicely.
Issued as a RB, I didn't change it.
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Great looking pistol, nice find!
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A $210 SOSS Beater Ohio prison gun that cleaned up nicely.
Issued as a RB, I didn't change it.
That is beautiful......nice job bringing it back. The round butt looks good, too.
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Congratulations on your Model 64,....I have a 64-1 & it is my favorite .38 spl revolver. You did good finding this one. I know you will enjoy it as much as we all do. I believe these guns to be some of the finest guns ever to come out of the factory....

I also believe them to be a thing of beauty, as well as quality....

Thanks for showing it to us....
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