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Old 02-06-2013, 07:07 PM
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A friend wanted to know if he should shoot this 357.



When he described it to me I told him I probably would not. When I saw it I was very impressed and wanted to share it with everyone here.













He bought it used but hardly used. It has a slight turn line from dry fire but I didn’t see any rust or nick’s. The numbers on the knife match the gun.
Any idea of value?
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Since it already has a turn line I don't think you would hurt it by shooting it and in my limited experience commemorative guns just don't go up in value that much. It is pretty though.
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$700 wag.

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I’m really surprised. I thought a pinned and recessed 4” model 19-3 was a sought after gun, like a classic of the classics and finding one in almost new shape would be a real find.
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If it is used, then it is used. Shoot it.

10,000 of these were made.

We have had several threads on them in the last several months.

The search function is your friend. Here are some
1973 S&W Texas Ranger Commemorative
19-3 Texas Rangers
Texas Ranger Model 19 selling advice
S&W Model 19-3 Texas Ranger Commemerative
Texas Ranger Commemorative 357cal
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I’ve only bought 3 commemoratives, so this is more from observing what other shooters do locally and observing commemoratives displayed for sale in LGSs. Generally, NIB unfired commemoratives with all their original paper work and stuff are worth about the same amount as a non-decorated identical model in 95% condition without box. That non-decorated gun NIB unfired is worth quite a bit more than the NIB commemorative. If the commemorative has features like a different shape, length or weight barrel that was never offered on non-decorated versions of the model sometimes shooters will pay a premium to get those features. The extra S&W Bowie knife might fall in that category. As previously posted, this is a tough reality for the “investor” who was sold a mass produced article that was built to be a collectors item.
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A friend of mine carried one as his duty weapon some years ago.
I generally don’t care for commemoratives, but I’d make an exception for that one.

What’s not to like? A 19-3 with no bling, a nice knife, and a beautiful case.
I however sometimes gently carry more expensive or rare S&W’s. I can no longer afford safe Queens, but if I had the funds I’d have a boat load collecting dust. That doesn’t change the value of your friends gun. I still say around $700. Maybe a bit more.

I’d place that gun into the nice carry gun category, and shoot it a lot, or a little, depending on the owners circumstances.

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he shouldn't deprive himself the joy of shooting the model19 4".
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I’ve only bought 3 commemoratives, so this is more from observing what other shooters do locally and observing commemoratives displayed for sale in LGSs. Generally, NIB unfired commemoratives with all their original paper work and stuff are worth about the same amount as a non-decorated identical model in 95% condition without box. That non-decorated gun NIB unfired is worth quite a bit more than the NIB commemorative. If the commemorative has features like a different shape, length or weight barrel that was never offered on non-decorated versions of the model sometimes shooters will pay a premium to get those features. The extra S&W Bowie knife might fall in that category. As previously posted, this is a tough reality for the “investor” who was sold a mass produced article that was built to be a collectors item.
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I'm sure he did not buy it as a investment. I thought it was going to be worth tons unfired so I told him not to shoot it. This just proves again how nice it is to have this forum.
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IHMO "commemorative s" are usually less desirable than the same regular production gun in similar condition. That is unless of course you are a retired Texas Ranger looking for one. There are RARE exceptions, but since there were so many of these made I doubt this one is. Personally I would enjoy it and shoot it, but that's me.

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I thought it was going to be worth tons unfired so I told him not to shoot it.
To a collector it would be worth more unfired since leaving the factory than fired. However in your first post you describe the revolver as "hardly used." Many of us take that to mean it has been fired by a previous owner. Therefore any collector premium is already lost.
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IHMO "commemorative s" are usually less desirable than the same regular production gun in similar condition. That is unless of course you are a retired Texas Ranger looking for one. There are RARE exceptions, but since there were so many of these made I doubt this one is. Personally I would enjoy it and shoot it, but that's me.
Exactly! Most of the commemorative guns remain in the box unused or rarely used. No one really collects guns made as "collector's items" anyway. Most are too gaudy to boot. I sold a few Colt WWI commemoratives for less than a standard Gov't Model to a gunsmith that made IPSC-type guns out of them.

A new in blue box P&R 4in Model 19 from the same era would probably fetch just as much , if not more than that Ranger.
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The critical fact is: 10,000. of these guns were made!!!! Even unfired these guns aren't scarce. These huge commemorative runs are more akin to beanie babies, longaberger baskets, bradford exchange and stuff like that.

That said...they are nice guns and I have several :-)
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I sold one to someone here about two years ago for around $650s. I had bought it new in the early 1970s and never fired it. I think they were the first comembertives smith made. Its kind of a burr to me how collectors snub all comemratives. First they usualy have nicer finishs and wood than standard models. New, they cost more. Yet when you go to sell them snobs want them half price. Colt and winchesters are the same story. Other people than me make em what they are. Were I to do it again I would have kept mine, carried it and shot it, and been proud of it. I didnt because I had several other smith 357s and two pythons anyway.
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