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Sitting on the fence and I want to get off
Ok guys,
You have talked me off the fence before time for another round.
19-2 Round butt in 99+ condition with box and paperwork, 2.5 in barrel.
Now the question:
I offered $750 feeling I was right at or above value he wants $900, I don't want to go nuts even if it is a nice piece.
Other added benefits, local sale no FFL fees or shipping.
Help!!
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I won't be the one talking you off the fence either.
Find another
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$900 is steep! $750 was more than fair.
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I agree walk away he is asking too much.I just sold one that looked new for $650
QUOTE=71firebird400;137117433]$900 is steep! $750 was more than fair.[/QUOTE]
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I agree w/everyone else, walk away.
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^^^ What they said. ^^^
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How often have you actually seen one in that condition in your area. And how bad do you want it. In this climate if the gun is pristeen I'll gladly over pay.
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Ok guys,
You have talked me off the fence before time for another round.
19-2 Round butt in 99+ condition with box and paperwork, 2.5 in barrel.
Now the question:
I offered $750 feeling I was right at or above value he wants $900, I don't want to go nuts even if it is a nice piece.
Other added benefits, local sale no FFL fees or shipping.
Help!!
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Yeah you are, especially if it isn't p&r.
That seller is way high.Tell him to take a hike.
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I would have to side with the "walk away from it" group. That is highway robbery.
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Have you guys seen what they are going for
On GB these days? They are breaking a grand almost
everytime lately. That's for dash threes.
The other week a dash two went for
$3250.
There's a thread here on the forum about it.
For a pristine dash two I don't think
nine is that high.
I wouldn't pass it up.
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Not saying I would or would not, just consider. FFL fees + shipping could be $100 more or less. Add in the fact, that you can see the gun, and there's no shenanigans going on.
I have a 99+ 19-3 with box, tools, and original receipt....750 ain't getting it.
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^^^ What they said. ^^^
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Disregard what this ^^^^ guy says, he probably has 4 of them.
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It's always easier to spend someone elses money.
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Disregard what this ^^^^ guy says, he probably has 4 of them.
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Ok ok, if it is what it is, just BUY IT and don't look back!
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If you want it, ask the seller to meet you in the middle. It's more money than I would want to spend, but compared to what S&W charges for new revolvers, the price is right there.
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It all comes down to why you want it.Are you a collector.The price of these guns keeps going up.I'm sure in a year or two you will be ahead of the game.It might seem a lil high but I don't know that particular gun so I can't say. I know if you look at my avatar that is a gun I spent 5 1/2 years looking for. I knew what I wanted and condition.It seemed high when I bought it, but today I know I could get my money plus half again back.I also got all his ammo 4 1/2 boxes. I am a beginning collector and that 29-2 was my first purchase as far as smiths go.I would still see about getting him to come down some.Heck offer him the 750.00 and throw in some trade.
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$900.00 is a lot of money but you don't have to pay sales tax, shipping, or FFL fees, so as Lader13 noted subtract $75.00 - $100.00 now you are looking at an $800.00 investment.
Do you want an M 19-2 2 1/2" badly enough to spend $800.00 for one?
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Woof!! Who'da thunk we'd ever be havin' a conversation about prices like that?
I can remember when I couldn't afford a new Combat Magnum at $125.00
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Which is going to be easier? Finding another gun like that or getting another $900. Larry
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At first it does sound a bit high, but then the minty boxed examples are already at that price in many cases. Then look where everything else is at. If you don't buy it, thats your decision. Someone will want to thank you for passing on it when they snap it up, because it will sell.
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Woof!! Who'da thunk we'd ever be havin' a conversation about prices like that?
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Yep, that $2.01 per hour did not go far. I too remember looking at high dollar guns priced over a hundred dollars.
To the OP. If you are going to keep it in the box and keep it for a long time it may be a good buy. If you are going to keep it a long time and shoot it, it is a better buy. I see many guns not new in the box, heck with out a box that were under $400 just a few years ago and now $700 seems to be the norm. 3 years ago I bought a very nice nickel 19-3 for $375. The ones I now see at shows are not as nice and that magic number $695 was on several. I know asking and getting are two different worlds. If I personally wanted the gun to keep or keep and shoot and was that close, and IF IT IS REALLY Nice I would get it.
You might put $850.00 in your wallet count it out and say this is it. I've used this and had a few rats pull it on me........... Works pretty often.
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Six months ago I got a 2 1/2 19-4 nickel for $650. It polished up beautifully and I'm sure would sell for the $800-$900 you all are talking about but its still hard to cough that kinds $$ up when u know its crazy out there.
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No need to join the "League of Extraordinary Idiots". Walk away, you'll find another, maybe when you aren't even looking (like my BHP). I don't understand the math. You don't have to pay shipping and FFL fees ($75.00-$100.00) bringing the price down to $800. So you give the seller his asking price of $900.00 and he gets the shipping and FFL fees you don't have to pay??? I hope none of you guys thinking that way are in municipal government.
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I just sold a pristine *19-2* (some of you are overlooking this little bit of info) with a SIX inch bbl for $795 about a month ago. I immediately had seller's remorse. Only thing good about it is that I have another just like it. In today's market,quality COMMANDS a high price,and usually gets it. JMO,FWIW.
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So you would rather your local municipality buy supplies locally or pay shipping from far away for the same thing. Hmmm.
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Well thanks for clearing that up for me!! LOL
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So you would rather your local municipality buy supplies locally or pay shipping from far away for the same thing. Hmmm.
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Your math is much better.
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When all is said and done it is still your money and your decision. Just curious. What are you going to do? Larry
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When all is said and done it is still your money and your decision. Just curious. What are you going to do? Larry
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I think I am going to pass on it. I don't like having to play catchup on the value side. Having negative equity sitting in the safe is not what I am interested in.
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I have often said you never pay too much you just buy too early. In this case you are buying waaaaaaaaay early.
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Iggy, the real trick back then was to find one for sale, they were often scarce.Yes, $125.00 was a fair amount of $$ in them days.
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i must agree that to me is way high...i purchased an unfired 4"with box,docs,tools a few months back for $525,and i paid no shipping,etc either as it was local
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Well, from my experience as a collector for over forty years we have to ask ourselves the following questions... and I like to stick to my own general formula...
1. Does S&W make them anymore? (+ or - $200)
2. If they make anything similar what is the retail price? (+ or - $100)
3. What is the condition of the firearm being considered? (+ or - $200)
4. How many do I see popping up in my area and how many have I had an opportunity to buy. (+ or - $100)
5. What additional costs will be tacked on to the guns purchase? (shipping, FFL fees, etc). (varies)
6. How much more expense and time will be incurred in my search to find a similar firearm for my collection? (varies)
IMO, throwing a decision on a quality gun purchase to an anonymous group of people who may or may not have any knowledge of accurate value or market availability can be a true exercise in futility.
Sadly, there is no "Kelley Blue Book or NADA" book, published bi-monthly with current and always changing market values for guns like there is for automobiles. We've gotta consider or own needs, desires and common sense to determine what a purchase and its pricing is best for us.
Just sayin'
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Well, from my experience as a collector for over forty years we have to ask ourselves the following questions... and I like to stick to my own general formula...
1. Does S&W make them anymore? (+ or - $200)
2. If they make anything similar what is the retail price? (+ or - $100)
3. What is the condition of the firearm being considered? (+ or - $200)
4. How many do I see popping up in my area and how many have I had an opportunity to buy. (+ or - $100)
5. What additional costs will be tacked on to the guns purchase? (shipping, FFL fees, etc). (varies)
6. How much more expense and time will be incurred in my search to find a similar firearm for my collection? (varies)
IMO, throwing a decision on a quality gun purchase to an anonymous group of people who may or may not have any knowledge of accurate value or market availability can be a true exercise in futility.
Sadly, there is no "Kelley Blue Book or NADA" book, published bi-monthly with current and always changing market values for guns like there is for automobiles. We've gotta consider or own needs, desires and common sense to determine what a purchase and its pricing is best for us.
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Thanks TDC I appreciate the info for sure.
Unfortunately for me I am just starting the collection and as far as half the items you mention I have not had the experience or gained the knowledge to answer those questions. Fortunately I am wise enough to pass all the replies through a sieve and hopefully use them to assist in my decision making. And as I suspected there would be a few like yourself who actually have very valuable information. Again thanks for the excellent reply.
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Besides I would run it by my wife but I already know what she will say!!
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Factor in inflation and I would be real curious as to what that $125 would equal in todays dollars. We might be surprised.
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All guns are selling at crazy high prices right now and especially pristine revolvers and the shorter the barrel the higher the price. One of two things is going to happen and one is after things settle down prices will drop to a more normal position or the second is things will get worse and if you can still do any deal the prices will even be higher.
I think you have to really factor in is how bad you want the revolver and is it enough to get you to pull the trigger and buy it. No one knows what the future is right now so I think you need to take that out of the equation for now. The price is high but not out of sight high when you consider you have no shipping fees involved.
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Factor in inflation and I would be real curious as to what that $125 would equal in todays dollars. We might be surprised.
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Good point, gasoline was what, .30 a gallon in the early to mid 60's ? It's now 12-13 times that today.
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Inflation calculator says $125 in 1970 would be 729.04 today. Just about what he offered. joe
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Walk away and show no further interest in it and he should come down at or near your range.
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