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05-27-2013, 02:34 PM
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27-2 bluing issues
I traded for 3 NIB? revolvers all 8 3/8. A 48 with both cylinders a 586 no dash and this 27-2. All do appear NIB but the bluing on the frame of this 27 appears to be very thin at certain angles and almost has a case hardened look. the rest of the bluing is perfect. Could this be a failed attempt at cleaning? The grips are perfect and looking at the forcing cone very little use is shown. I was aware of this when I got it but will probably move it on as I have another without these issues. Any ideas just curious
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05-28-2013, 10:21 AM
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From the photos it looks like it may be trying to turn plum. I like it.
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05-28-2013, 11:08 AM
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Something is going on here, I would note that it is a very late pinned and recessed gun and as such, there were some shall we say "issues" with certain guns. I would enquire of Smith and Wesson to see if this particular piece had been returned previously???? billy
I have seen several cylinders that I had suspected were reblues of that era "plumbing", but this looks different than that????
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05-28-2013, 11:40 AM
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I could be wrong, but from the pictures it looks like someone tried to clean it up with fine Copper wool. I would take some Flitz or Simichrome and see if it will clean off.
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05-28-2013, 11:46 AM
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It really appears the bluing is very thin but surface is not abused
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05-28-2013, 12:15 PM
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I have bought a few S&W revolvers with a plum color on part of the revolver and it was usually on the cylinder but mine had no thinning. I understand the plum color was caused with problems in the bluing solution applied to the revolver and that doesn't necessarily mean a reblue.
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05-28-2013, 12:22 PM
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Assuming the 27-2 was shipped in late 80 or sometime in 81, the plum color may have resulted from S&W changing from the carbona blue process to the hot liquid blue process in May of 1980. Maybe (and this is pure speculation), the company was still perfecting the new process.
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05-28-2013, 01:07 PM
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I have two pistols with parts that are plum color. My understanding, like others who have posted, is this may be a problem with the original bluing solution. I know for a fact that one of them is not a reblue because I purchased it new. The other was used but shows no signs of a reblue.
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05-31-2013, 06:24 AM
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27-2
Reading all the posts and looking at the revolver I'm pretty sure it was a bluing issue and over time is turning a case hardened looking plum. I see no issues that indicate a reblue finish as all lines and screw holes are
sharp and knowing the back round of the others I bought .
from same seller it makes the most sense. Thanks to all for you for your help.
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05-31-2013, 07:37 AM
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Many a Ruger Blackhawk had that case hardened plum look from a poor bluing process. It happened and in fact I've like it on the Rugers as it gave an antique look as if the frame truly was case hardened ala a Colt SAA.
Consider the Model 27 a great shooter and let it go to work.
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05-31-2013, 10:44 PM
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Nothing to add re: blueing issues, but
Let's see the 48, please!
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Blueing from the factory seems to vary a good bit with guns made
during the 70s. I have some that look almost black and others that
have a lighter thinner blue color. I have two 4" 28-2s that are not very
far apart in serial numbers, 566xxx and 586xxx and one, can't remember which without looking, has a slight plum cast to the frame
under certain lighting angles.
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06-01-2013, 08:48 AM
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The blueing process is not an exact science, the salts work differently on each steel alloy and also depends on hardness. If you consider that it is a forced oxidation process it makes sense that some metals rust easier than others. I used a additive from brownelles to combat the plum colors, it usually worked. Some alloys like Winchesters nickel steel were a real problem.
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I would put a good coat of paste wax on it.
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Awakening an old thread...
I now own this gun. I have used one very light round of Flitz and it didnt change the color of the bluing. It doesnt appear to be a 'thin' look to the bluing IMO, it just has a greenish-plum hue to it. Maybe it is in the process of turning completely plum like some ive seen?
Here are some updated pics I took yesterday...
Any opinions and info are welcome.
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My Opinion is, That is very nice....Ray
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