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01-04-2014, 03:56 PM
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Fantasy pricing on 19-4
I recently saw a NIB 19-4 (1980) with box and papers. Asking price is $1200. Doesn't appear to be anything other than a very nice revolver. Are there any variants of the 19-4 that would command this price in today's market, or is this as far out of line as I think it is?
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01-04-2014, 04:06 PM
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It's high, by 75-100% depending on its barrel length, in my opinion.
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01-04-2014, 04:47 PM
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It's high, indeed, but getting increasingly less so.
I've seen folks list the limited run, agency marked 19s for around $1200; never seen them sell for that.
What I keep in mind when I see crazy high asks like that is:
1) The seller's understandably hoping for a lucky sell.
2) The seller's trying to gauge market value by baiting highest offers.
3) The seller's simply beginning with their most hopeful number, no different than my lowball counteroffer.
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01-04-2014, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by murphydog
It's high, by 75-100% depending on its barrel length, in my opinion.
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It's a 4". I was thinking $800, tops, for a near perfect specimen.
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01-04-2014, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MN2944
It's a 4". I was thinking $800, tops, for a near perfect specimen.
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In a private sale, classifieds or on an auction site, yes, $800 is about right...at the moment.
There are some online dealers with reputations for top quality, collectible condition items who consistently ask ultra premium prices like $1200 for an NRA "perfect" Model 19 with box, tools and docs. I presume they often find a buyer who'll pay that premium in return for the easy hunt and presumed certainty of top condition.
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01-04-2014, 05:22 PM
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NIB? Don't be surprised when it sells.
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01-04-2014, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hapworth
In a private sale, classifieds or on an auction site, yes, $800 is about right...at the moment.
There are some online dealers with reputations for top quality, collectible condition items who consistently ask ultra premium prices like $1200 for an NRA "perfect" Model 19 with box, tools and docs. I presume they often find a buyer who'll pay that premium in return for the easy hunt and presumed certainty of top condition.
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I would happily pay $1200 for a NIB 4" 19.
A 19-4, NO.
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01-04-2014, 05:25 PM
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NIB? Don't be surprised when it sells.
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I'm sure it probably will. What I've found is that most dealers around here are absolutely unwilling to budge , knowing that someone will come along and buy it if they give it 6-12 months.
The question is if that someone is me.
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01-04-2014, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by usm1rifle
I would happily pay $1200 for a NIB 4" 19.
A 19-4, NO.
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Ah, a fellow technician. Yes, in replying to OP's question, I was referring to the more common 19-4s by their broader model designation, 19, not to a no dash, for which I'd also cough up $1200 for a NIB example.
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01-04-2014, 07:12 PM
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This type of pricing is a common dilemma. If a buyer has $1200 burning a hole in their pocket, just wants it and doesn't care about paying over market value (i.e., doesn't expect to turn it around for a profit any time soon), it would be "worth it". With a big enough bank account this works for some.
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01-04-2014, 07:21 PM
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that is high. If you want a true NIB 19-4, you had better plan on parting with $750-800 minimum. Even if you think prices are higher than justified, honest NIB pre-lock P&R guns are getting harder to find all the time.
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01-04-2014, 07:48 PM
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My guess is it will sell sooner than you think.
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01-04-2014, 08:04 PM
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IMHO this time of year (Dec and Jan) folks have more money to spend. So a higher priced item has a better chance of selling.
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01-04-2014, 08:48 PM
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It happens with real estate too. Sellers sometime ask a ridiculous price just to see if somebody is that ignorant. Sometimes it does work. A smart guy once said something like a sucker is born every minute.
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01-04-2014, 09:07 PM
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It happens with real estate too. Sellers sometime ask a ridiculous price just to see if somebody is that ignorant. Sometimes it does work. A smart guy once said something like a sucker is born every minute.
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I just picked up same gun with out the Box and paid 575 so I would say it is high.
Not nib but 98-99%.
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