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Old 02-28-2015, 10:30 AM
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I have seen gas rings mentioned in the descriptions of changes made from one dash iteration to the next one. However I could never could figure out what it looked like, what it did or why they moved it around.

Any information would be appreciated.

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Late 66 no dash and 19-4 gas ring question?

Gas Ring Yoke or Cylinder?
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If you are going to shoot a hundred rounds or so I've found the yoke mounted gas ring allows enough residue into the cylinder to stiffen up cylinder rotation. Not a big deal as it's easily cleaned up when you get home or give it a bit of a spritz of light oil to soften up the crud whilst shooting.
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Oh, that is a gas ring! Now that splayns everything. I think?

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I have been confused about this back & forth gas ring thing as well. Seeing your thread here got me to follow all the other threads linked, and now I have a better understanding. Thanks.

Here's the post that helped me the most.

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Here's a picture of the cylinder and the yoke with the gas ring a part of the yoke.



Compare the face of the cylinder and the widest part of the yoke barrel.

Gas ring located on the cylinder

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I have two 19-3s, one with the gas ring on the cylinder and one on the yoke.
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It seems that a change of gas ring location would call for an engineering change, but apparently not always.
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I have two 19-3s, one with the gas ring on the cylinder and one on the yoke.
S&W started selling revolvers in 1853 with gas rings in their cylinders. K frames had them until 1975 -1976. For a year and a half or so that coincided with blued target sighted K frame dash 3 production K frames got a so called gas ring on the yoke. In reality that means no gas ring at all. Discontinuing a separate part and its installation was a cost saving measure. The gas ring in the cylinder is one of the features you pay more for when you chose a S&W over a Ruger. For most K frames dash 4 indicates a restoration of S&W's traditional gas ring. All N frames have gas rings in or machined as part of their cylinders. That was a 1990s change, machining a gas ring integral to cylinders. J frames are their own can of worms. Early ones had a gas ring in their cylinders. Many later Js have a "gas ring on the yoke."

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With only one exception all S&W revolvers sold starting with their first in 1853 have gas rings in their cylinders. The exception was K frames made during the last year and a half or so of target sighted K frame dash 3 production. The so called gas ring on the yoke which in reality is no gas ring at all was a cost saving measure. The gas ring in the cylinder is one of the features you pay more for when you chose a S&W over a Ruger. For most K frames dash 4 indicates a restoration of S&W's traditional gas ring.
Very nice information. Seems like it fits as of my two examples.

19-3 May 1973 gas ring on cylinder (Texas Ranger)

19-3 July 1977 gas ring on yoke. (Nickle)

So would you consider the ring on the yoke as being a extra wide spacer as opposed to a gas ring?

I enjoy getting both these guns out at the same time.Although the same model there are many options that make both guns very different from each other.
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Very nice information. [...]
So would you consider the ring on the yoke as being a extra wide spacer as opposed to a gas ring? [...]
Unfortunately my information wasn't entirely "nice." Too bad I got quoted before I could edit. I seldom handle J frames so I never though about their gas rings. After following the links in this thread I learned most later ones don't have a gas ring in their cylinder. Now I'll have to get my Js out and look.

As far as terms and naming goes, IMO S&W named it a gas ring on the yoke and did not give it an engineering dash change to obfuscate what they'd done.

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You pray that it's just gas Here I sit broken hearted...

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