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Old 03-25-2015, 08:28 PM
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Two of my revolvers. I was told the top one, the 38 was from the 1930's. If it really is it looks outstanding. I just don't have the proper grips for it. The 357 is in real nice condition. I don't know the particulars on either. I inhereted these and a few more when my Dad passed many years ago. I just retired and have some extra time on my hands so my son's and I are shooting these, cleaning them up a bit and doing some research.

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Good looking guns. If you post the the first few of the serial numbers, we can give you rough dates on them.
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Interesting pair,
Post the serials if your interested in their app DOB.

The long action M&P has a pre 1940 TM but has a post war FS blade so guessing the barrel has been swapped at some point.
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Thank you. The 357 is 4K12XXX and the 38 is 6326XX. I got both of these numbers off of the bottom of the frame, under the grip.
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Thank you. The 357 is 4K12XXX and the 38 is 6326XX. I got both of these numbers off of the bottom of the frame, under the grip.
The 19-3 is around 1974 (ish)
The M&P serial is pre WWII , as mentioned probably has had a new barrel installed at some point.
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WOW! Thank you very much! I really appreciate it. I have some dumb questions though.

"a pre 1940 TM"--What does this mean?
" but has a post war FS blade" what does this mean?

Are you talking about the front sight?

Sorry for the dumb questions, I just want to learn about these things. They were my Dad's, now mine and someday my son's will have them.

Thanks again

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Your dad had good taste in revolvers.
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Thank you Sheepdog. I agree. Here's two more. Granted they're no Smiths but great handguns in their own right.
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dad's taste is getting better and better. Any more?
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Welcome to the forum, if you want to learn about your fathers revolvers this is the place.

The front sight looks to be from a later time .
If the barrel is original to the gun, there will be a matching serial number under the extractor rod. With the large extractor knob they would have had to relieve that portion of the barrel to clear it with a replacement. There should also be a matching serial number on the face of the cylinder.

The frame also has a screwed in hammer stud, post war that transitioned into a pressed in stud.


Here's a link with some good info.

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Thanks all. JimmyJones, thanks for the clarification(s) and link. As far as the revolvers go that's pretty much it for revolvers that Pop owned. He did give me one as a present when I graduated the NJSP academy many years ago. A stainless 38 5-shot that I wore on my ankle for the 18 years I was on routine patrol. I inherited some autos too. A few Berettas, some 25's that are a complete mess for some reason and this. Probably my second favorite gun he had behind the Python. Not sure of the following or anything, but after shooting it for so long it's a true Cadillac.

Its a Browning 9mm Hi power. My son's and I love it.

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That model 19 is one of the best Revolvers Smith and Wesson ever made.
it is the baby of a man named Bill Jordan who advocated for a 4" 357 Magnum on the Smith and Wesson K Frame. Up to that point K Frames were mostly .32 and .38 caliber. He wanted the same easy to carry package but a little more firepower as an alternative to the N frame 27s and 28s of the time.

The model 19 and the model 13 were the result.

The K frame 357s are a great package, but it is advised not to feed them a steady diet of 357s. There were reports of cracked forcing cones. Occasional magnums are Ok, but it is recommended to avoid 125 grain magnums. 158 grain magnums are not as rough on the gun.

Your 19 is a beauty.

I have one myself that was lightly used and only has a little muzzle wear on it.

Enjoy it with your son.
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4K12XXX and 6326XX
4K1,628 – 4K54,104.....1973 (manufacture)
Your M&P SN 6326xx would have shipped around early 1931. M&Ps of that time had a half-moon front sight. The front sight itself could have been re-shaped by someone, as that style was not used prior to about 1952. There are three areas which have SNs which should match - the butt, the rear face of the cylinder, and on a flat at the bottom of the barrel (plus two other places not so easily seen). In about mid-1948 the hammer style changed, and is easily determined by its shape. Your hammer is of the pre-1948 type.
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I am also new to the Forum, but a long time S&W owner and Collector. I agree that the 19 is one of the finest revolvers Smith ever made, thank you Bill Jordan. I have 4 of them. One is the first handgun I ever bought and I carried it as a duty weapon for many years. It is still a beauty. Your DaD HAD GOOD TASTE.
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DWalt. Thanks for the explanation. You really know your stuff. I'm really beginning to like this forum. Lotsa nice folks here.
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ALL extremely nice stuff there. Other than S&W, I'm a big Hi Power fan too.
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I would like to apply for a position as one of your sons.....I know that this is a S&W revolver forum.....but those colts and that Belgium browning 9mm are Swwwweeeet!
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