Whats the value of the 66 no dash, no box, all stainless with target wood grips, gun looks to be in good condition, seller wants $700, think thats to much.

Does "all stainless"...... include the rear sight?

A lot that were shipped with stainless.... got changed out over the years..... it was a feature that many didn't like

Yes, stainless front and back, it is a 4 inch barrel

Just my opinion..... $700 seems a bit high for one in only "good" condition....if "good" means "as new in box" it's an OK price.........

Lots of folks will say "stainless" can be cleaned up but I'm guessing future collectors will know and devalue ....... like a refinished blue gun.

Let's get some other input..........................................

I got one just like that at a LGS a few weeks ago for $400. But I think I was lucky. Without the box and other stuff $700 sounds high to me.

I just paid $550.00 for one in what I call "good" condition, no box or papers. It had a few scratches and dings, and the finish was sort of dull. I took some Flitz and wax to it and it looked a lot better.

In the gunstore when I put it on layaway.



After being cleaned up. The light was MUCH better.



The S/N says it was made in 1974. I THINK those are what people mean when they say "stainless steel sights", but I don't know for sure that I've ever seen a set.

$700.00 is more where I'd expect to see one in like new condition, with box and papers.

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I think CajunBass gun shows how a "cleaned up" gun "looks"different..... remember Stainless 66 were intended to be Police guns.... and most were.... so my guess is that +95% will only be in fair to good condition .......carried a lot shot a little. You can tell Cajun's grips have seen some serious use....

Not knocking CBass's gun or his decision to clean it up.................

CBass a question: is the sight adjustment screw blue? What about the sight blade?........IIRC my screws on mine are stainless...... could be wrong..........happened once before..... or so my wife says

My rear sight is entirely stainless, screws, blade, everything. I hear they are less common than the blued. Hard to see the sight in this picture, but here's mine.

bought one locally (Tulsa) month or so ago pretty much as you described for $450. It was a no-dash but had the black rear sights.

You're right about the grips. The right one shows a lot of wear, but the left one, is still in pretty decent shape.



The adjustment screw and sight blade are both black.

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$700 is way much for a 4" 66 in just "good" condition and no box. If I just had to have it, I'd pay $625 at most -- and that's still too much. But I don't know how much you want it -- that counts for a lot.

Here's a good picture of stainless sights on a 66. They can be pretty tough on old eyes at certain levels of light. The other 66 no dash in the collection has the blackened rear sights and a red ramp on the front post. It is far easier to acquire a good sight picture and is my preferred shooter.

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Seeking 686 no dash. Any help?

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Thought I'd check in on this thread..........

An observation not a rant...... but I think the worst description one can use in describing a gun is............. "good condition".

Everyone seems to have their own idea of what is "good"....... and good condition can vary even in my own mind if the gun is 5 years old or 60 or 100......and while there are no 100 year old stainless guns ...... my idea of "good" varies even between stainless and blue guns.......

I think this is covered in the SCS&W..........

I tend to agree as "good condition" is a relative term and usually varies greatly.
IMO, a seller's good condition typically is over rated and not indicative of the true condition. Even when strictly adhering to NRA rating, there is room for discretion.

That's what I thought "stainless steel" sights should look like. When I first saw the one I've got, I noticed the rear blade was black/blue and wondered if someone had swapped it somewhere along the line. It wasn't until I was looking at the pictures I noticed the adjustment screw was blued also. The rear blade does have a white outline. No insert on the front sight though. I had to give it a manicure and add a drop of white/orange nail polish to get that.

The trigger and hammer on this one also look different than the others I've seen pictures of of. They look like they came from a blue gun. Toss in the fact that the cylinder release latch has been trimmed down, and it looks like someone tried to make this one his own.

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If you can afford to wait and be patient you will find one in no time as there are still many out there in fine condition. Here is a 66 n/d I bought earlier this year on GB for $470. It closed on a weekday and no one was paying attention. It came with a beautiful pair of Target grips that are to large for me that I sold for $70.00 on the Forum in 2 hours and replaced them with what fit me best, Ahrends Retro finger groove, same price. I really didn't have to look long, just bookmark potential keepers and wait and watch . I did put a little time and effort to bring this 66 back to it's former glory, it was a police trade in. Good Luck

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Where are you guys finding these $< $500 M66
no dash? Not in Atlanta. Not here either.

I picked mine up last year for under $500.

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Looks like case hardened hammer and trigger...... should be S/Steel or flash chromed........

I paid $700.00 for a no dash W/ SS sights this summer, high grade shooter in my opinion. Not a collector grade gun, but I have the box, unopened tool kit, VCT paper and all paperwork. I thought that was a fair deal, but no bargain.

Below are two pictures of an all original 66 no-dash in the 2k serial range. I am the original owner of this pictured 66. It remains NIB with the original sealed tools, box and included literature of that era.

Values of these guns can range widely. Many were modified as has been mentioned, particularly in the sighting area, and like all collectible S&W handguns, those modifications can cause a significant impact on what the firearms current value may be, especially to serious collectors.

People added black rear sights, some had a good gunsmith add a red ramp to the front blade, some installed a target hammer and trigger, all modifications done to personalize, and in their opinions, to improve the look and performance of their gun, not caring or thinking that someday those changes may have a significant impact on the value of their guns...

Today we often see an anxious desire to take these modified guns back to their original configuration as many of us have seen the value of original guns skyrocket in recent years, and there seems to be no end in sight.

So what is a 66 no-dash worth?

For shooters as well as collectors condition should be paramount. For collectors as well as investment seekers the selection process becomes much more critical. I look at what may be missing and proceed from there. If it has an after market red-ramp installed restoring the gun visually to original condition is highly unlikely. If it doesn't have all stainless rear sights I have seen them selling recently for $125 and they are becoming increasingly difficult to find. The same for the trigger and hammer. If they aren't original you can expect to pay a bunch for them. If they don't have the original "football" grips you can expect to put out at least $60 for an average pair.

Then there is the issue of the gun having the original box, tools and literature from that period. I've seen the boxes for that model sell for $50 and up and those didn't have an original label with the serial number matching the gun. I've seen sealed tool packs for the 4" k frames, including the screw driver, swab, brush and rod sell for $35 and up. Another issue to many people is the lowness of the serial number. The earlier the better for collector interest.

When someone asks a value on such a sought after gun like the 66 no-dash the range can often be shocking. I've seen them sell for as low as $350 all the way up to $1375 in recent years. Just determining the model to be a 66 no-dash doesn't automatically mean it is a top dollar example.

Just owning a 66 no-dash is truly like owning a piece of handgun history. They are only the second stainless handgun and the first stainless K frame produced by S&W, the first being the Mod 60.

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Not many people like to admit or discuss the associated cost when buying on GB, we like to keep that on the down low. So I will revise my price as I purchased it on GB. Gun $475 shipping $30 and $25 for the FFL, reality price $530. It is worth it to me as I wouldn't otherwise come across a deal of this type or be able to look at 30-60 Model 66's in a sitting. Well worth it. In my case I have never purchased a revolver FTF out of over 60 purchased.I just don't have the opportunity without traveling to one of the big gun shows. I would guess 80% of my purchases come from east of the Mississippi, also a few from Texas.

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TDC - Good information & pictures on post thanks.