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Hello everyone, trying to ID this revolver. I don’t believe the grips are original. SN is 703XX. On the inside where the model is it looks like 9928. Is this an old model 28 from the 1960? Thanks

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Welcome! The left barrel is stamped ".32 W.C.F. CTG" which is the same as .32-20, so this is a Military & Police K frame. It is from the late 1910 decade or so. Here is a good post for providing information needed for an ID:

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You will find the serial number stamped on the butt. It also appears in other locations as well, but the one from the butt (frame) is considered the official SN.
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It's an early 32-20 (32 WCF) made before 1930...maybe long before that date. These were identical to the Military & Police 38 Special but weren't called M&Ps but rather "32-20s." Production ended by 1942.

Not sure why you would think it's a Model 28. That is an N frame 357 Magnum with adjustable sights. Nothing at all like this K frame revolver.

Stocks are plastic. Finish is rough. Value is not high. Maybe a couple hundred.

I have one just under 47,000 serial and it was made in 1910.
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Thanks everyone for the reply. So the number on the crane means nothing? This is where I was confused. The newer revolvers this is how to identifty them. Thanks
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Although newer S&W revolvers (which this isn't) have the serial number also stamped in the frame's yoke recess, the official location of the serial number on all Smith and Wesson revolvers is on the butt. Those numbers are probably assembly numbers.

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Alan correctly identified your revolver. It is a .32-20 Hand Ejector (K frame). It was made between 1915 and 1922, based on the serial number and the caliber marking. The fourth engineering change came in 1915 and yours should have the patent date for that change on the top of the barrel. It is December 29, 1914. The caliber stamp changed from 32 W.C.F. CTG to 32-20 CTG in 1922. Based on the serial number, yours was probably assembled shortly before the factory was taken over by the government during the Great War.

We know that serial number 81287 was assembled in September, 1919, so there is your bracket (after January, 1915 and before mid-year 1919). I suspect it was on the early end of that time frame. When it actually shipped is anyone's guess until (or if) you get a letter on it.

As for production, the .32-20 HE was not made after 1929-30. It remained in the catalog until 1940, but all those that shipped in the 1930s (and later) were sold from remaining stock.
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So the number on the crane means nothing? This is where I was confused. The newer revolvers this is how to identify them.
There was a time when that number meant something. It was used during the soft fitting process during assembly, to keep matched parts together. That's why it is often called an assembly number. Once the gun left the assembly area and went into the vault for future shipment, the number ceased to have meaning.

In the late 1950s (about 1958) when S&W began identifying its revolvers with model numbers, then you could identify them by looking for the model number in the yoke cut. For guns older than that, looking in the yoke area is a waste of time. However, if you open the cylinder on your revolver and look on the bottom of the barrel, you will see the serial number. It should match the one on the butt and on the rear face of the cylinder. That shows the barrel and cylinder came with that particular frame. You should also see a B on the barrel flat. That indicates the gun left the factory with a blued finish.

Enjoy your Winchester Model. They are great little revolvers!
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GA 1911
That's a dandy, my friend!
Nice stocks too. Those were only available from 1911 until early in 1920. I believe they quit making them in 1919, but some did ship in early 1920.

Here is a .32 Winchester Target model that shipped in March, 1904. It is a Model of 1902, made before the fifth screw was added in 1905. It is quite rare (being a target model) but is in less than perfect condition. The stocks post-date 1911, but I like them on this gun. The gun originally shipped with hard black rubber stocks, according to Roy's letter.

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