Hey snubbyfan. Is that a grip or a stock on your tomahawk handle?

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Dan
Ps 96 SWCA 2930 SWHF 524

It's the wooden holder oner thingie.

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Keep on Chooglin'

Only if they're not Goodyears.

Or, between a "barrel shank" and a "forcing cone."

Stocks are what they are. (noun) Grip is what you do. (verb)
But... it's really not very important. HOWEVER what does bothers me.. is a magazine that is called a clip. They are distinctly different. And those of us who use them should know the difference.

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John 1:17
NRA Life Benefactor

This cries for a nomenclature standards committee, whose recommendation, in the interest of not appearing to take sides or offend anyone, would probably be:
"Grocks" or "strips."

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60-10,640-1,G30,G41MOS,1911

Changed my mind. Handle thingies looking better and better.

Absolutely!

Magazine:



Clip:

How's about "human interface"?

Just for the sake of political incorrectness and obstinance I will continue to call them grips on a handgun. Stocks go on long guns.

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Blessed be the Lord,my Rock

I like that.Then we could picket and protest while the committee was in session.

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Blessed be the Lord,my Rock

Perhaps a good reason to call them grips. He also referred to the the optical sighting device on a rifle as a "telescope".

Grips for revolvers and stocks for semi auto's and rifles.

For little bit MORE mud in the water, you have a "pistol gripped" shotgun. Which is either the pistol grip only "cruiser" style.

The "cruiser" is to infer a high speed, low drag LEO Tactical Operator connection, as in "riding in a cruiser."

...or... the pistol gripped AR style with buttstock.

I regard insisting on referring to the portion of a revolver's butt which is covered by wood, bone, rubber, plastic or ivory as the stocks as being an affectation in most cases. To look down on others for calling them grips is unnecessary and says more about the "looker" than the "lookee." That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Froggie

If someone offers you a pair of factory S&W combat grips for $25.00, are you going to stand there and lecture him how wrong he is for referring to them as grips instead of stocks? I don't think so.

I'll take'em

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C & L

Not that it matters, but I will soon be 72 years young. I had never heard grips called stocks until I ventured onto this site! I have been involved in shooting since a very young age. Guess ya can learn something new no matter how old you get! To me, grips are on handguns; stocks on rifles and shotguns. Like I said, not that it matters! To each his own.

I try to use both terms in every post, just to generate confusion.

Colt and R.L.Wilson use "stocks". Charles Pate uses both with grips in parentheses.

S&W and most major S&W writers use stocks.

Having said all that I personally believe stocks go on your shoulder and grips go in your hands. I will continue to use both for the above mentioned reason.

I just wanted to add something, I recently bought a gun that had a receipt from Colt that included the custom made grips as they called them.

In 1920.

I believe that some would . . .

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You are aware of the picture of a Remington "spare clip" in the package which is actually what you would call a "magazine," aren't you?

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Why wouldn't a sighting device for rifles be called a telescope if it magnifies the objective?
Jeb

I call organic material stocks (wood, ivory, mother of pearl) and synthetic material grips.

But that's just me.

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"Mounted".

some guys need to take stock of what is really important and get a grip.

Whatever as long as the person I am conversing with understands what I mean. That is the true ability to communicate. Just like true manners is the ability to make those around you comfortable. If you insist on using a fork to eat a doughnut at morning coffee with the boys they are not going to feel comfortable around you.

I haven't counted or kept score, but on this forum I'd say the terms most often used are, in no order, Magnas, Targets, Cokes, Kuracs, Ropers, Nills, Herretts, Ahrends and Spegels. Lesser used terms I've seen are grips and stocks.

How do I make a right shot? No, that's not right. How do I make a
correct shot? Stance, grip, sights, and trigger. How I stand, how I hang
on to that thingee, those things that I look at, and that thing that I pull.
No, I don't pull, I squeeze. No, I don't squeeze, I press. Do I grip my
grip, do I grip my stock, or do I grip my thingee? I think Jeff Cooper,
who was a master at the use of the language, was trying to standardize
to avoid confusion. Now I'm confused. If you understood this, you
probably don't need to worry about whether you are gripping your grip,
gripping your stock, gripping your handle, or gripping your thingee.
I think I will just have another drink.

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In Omnia Paratus

For some non-technical reason, I've always referred to rubber grips as "grips" and wood stocks as "stocks".

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John

Me too. It would be an insult to the wood to equate the two.

Or the other way around. I can never remember which.

But enough of this; it's time to go load up some clips for my .45 pistol. Not the one with the pencil barrel (1917 repro), but the cut-down 25 with the stock frame roundbutted. BTW, both have improved grips, much better than factory, designed by America's master gunsmith, Frank Pachmayr. Or, as some would say, Goodyears.

Good one Phil!....I just spit coffee all over myself..{and I'am still laughing }.............................M*

Every time I hear controlled press or surprise break I roll my eyes.Why use one word when...

I have revolvers with wood stocks, stag grips, and pearl handles.
They all seem to work just fine.

Rubber grips (handles, or whatever) belong on golf clubs, not revolvers.

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For me it is an audience issue. Among common, disinterested folks, I do not get too wrapped up in it. When I am amongst subject matter experts, enthusiasts, or professionals I try to use more technically correct terminology. This can range from saying ".45 Colt" or .45 Long Colt". Grips or stocks, bullets or cartridge, the difference between a clip or magazine, or the difference between a fishing rod and a fishing pole. It is often simply a means of expanding our knowledge and to gauge who we are speaking to's knowledge. If someone calls a pistol magazine a "clip", I immediately can gauge their level of expertise or knowledge....and how much to weigh their opinion. By the same token, if I am discussing what grips or stocks to purchase and a seller says "I have a beautiful set of Ivory stocks over here with proper pre war medallions and the stocks are for a pre war frame"....versus the guy who says "I think these grips will fit a N frame", I will feel far more confident dealing with seller number one.

They are Grips when I buy them and Stocks when I sell them

Just don't replace the wooden stocks with rubber grips on your pencil barrel and then come here asking if it can handle +P.

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You're shy a few manners.

My "unwanted" opinion on the matter is, There are people in this old world that, like I, have an over supply of mouth to go with my under supply of brains. We similarly equipped folks, tend from time to time to put too much importance on things that are really not that important, and miss out on a lot of enjoyment, by trying to be too prim, and proper, on trivial matters. OBTW most of the firearm folks that I know would know, and understand what the person using the term, grips or stocks, meant anyway. Let's try to loosen up a bit. I'll try if you will.
Chubbo

It's not a matter of function, but common usage. I'm not aware of any manufacturer of optical sights that refers to their product as "telescopes". They are almost universally referred to as "scopes". Cooper seemed to enjoy choosing words that allowed him to talk down to the lowly masses.

Yes.

Then again, some folks still like to call modern cartridges, and even bullets, "rounds".

Acceptable modernized slang, at the worst.

You grip pistol stocks. (You shoulder rifle & shotgun stocks ... unless it also has a pistol grip .)

Nothing wrong with calling them "grips", though, since people know what you're talking about.

Pachmayr calls their product revolver grips. Link - Pachmayr&reg Pachmayr your primary source for quality handgun grips and recoil pads ... and Ahrends call their product revolver grips AND stocks, at the same time. Link - Ahrends Grips : Revolvers

Now, call a magazine a clip, and lots of folks will get up out of their chairs as if you called them a dirty name.

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Not all optical sights are telescopes. All telescopes made for firearms are optical sights. Not all makers of optical sights manufacture telescopic sights. But rest assured the ones that do will tell you that they are indeed telescopes. Advertising space is not free and manufacturers use common “slang” all the time. Telescope, riflescope and telescopic sight are all proper nomenclature. “Scope” is an abbreviated slang. If you prefer “nanner” to banana or “tater” to potato, that’s fine, we all do that to one extent or another. But I wouldn’t verbally backhand one of the most knowledgeable firearms men of our time – particularly when he’s no longer around to take your case.

I had the opportunity to speak with Jeff Cooper on several occasions. Several times at Gunsite Academy when he still owned and managed the operation. And several other occasions at speaking engagements. He was the consummate professional & gentleman and certainly never spoke down to me, and neither did I witness it towards others - ever. He spoke clearly and concisely and that’s no vice. If after thoroughly reading his work (because I know you have), you feel like you have been spoken down to, I think yours will be the abnormal opinion, and if you feel like a “lowly mass”, that would be your choice.
jebstuart

If you are a pilot and the tower asks "Do you want to turn left?"
You answer "Right." Does that mean yes you do want to turn left,
or does it mean no you want to turn right?
If I ask you "How do you grip your new revolver?" Do I mean what
kind of handles did you put on it or do I mean how do you hold it?
It would be great if there was a standard name for the handles on
handguns but there's not, so we just have to keep on guessing what
is meant.
Bullet is a word used by many when they mean cartridge.
Pistol is a word often used when revolver is meant.
Hammerless is used but concealed hammer would be better.
Cylinder is often used to describe one of the charge holes in the cylinder.
Clip is used when the proper word is magazine.
Assault Rifle is mis-used regularly by the media.
I'm sure you all can add others to this little list.

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In Omnia Paratus

A stock is something that supports a "long gun". A grip is something you grip when shooting a hand gun.

Thanks for that Cooper quote. If that airbag called them stocks, I'm most certainly calling them grips.

This is my grip

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C & L

Quoting "authorities" to back you up on issues outside their area of expertise, like gun experts about proper use of English words, doesn't support your point, it just makes the authorities look less authoritative.

Every time this subject comes up; and yes, it HAS been here before; I instantly recall "ole Pea-eye Parker's" comment at the supper table in one of the first scenes from Lonesome Dove.

"Can we eat supper now, or do we have to wait till all the arguing stops"?

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wanna do right-- not right now

All of this is just so much dithering about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The REAL important issue is should the toilet seat be left UP (for men's convenience) or DOWN (for the ladies' ). I maintain that since gravity assists the ladies lowering it, that the toilet seat should be left UP. My wife strongly disagrees. Who is correct?

I prefer the toilet seat to be left down. Lifting the seat numerous times during the day/night is how I get my daily exercise.

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