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Combat Masterpiece 18-3
LGS had this in their showcase today. 1971 Model 18-3 with magna's numbered to the gun. I'd say it's 95%.
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I like it, wish my 18 was a 4".
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02-01-2016, 08:39 PM
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I assume you took it home with you. I know I would. Great find and great gun! Mine is a no dash model from ca. 1959.
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02-01-2016, 08:40 PM
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I like it, wish my 18 was a 4".
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I thought all model 18's were 4 inch?
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All Mod 18's are 4". If it's a 6" gun it's a Mod 17.
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02-01-2016, 08:56 PM
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Great find looks to be in excellent shape!! Do you mind disclosing the amount paid?
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The store had it tagged at $499 and I thought that was a fair price.
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Nice find! The 5% finish loss must be inside the frame window . Enjoy!
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The store had it tagged at $499 and I thought that was a fair price.
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Thanks for sharing. Great deal! That would be a $700 or more gun in my neighborhood.
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The store had it tagged at $499 and I thought that was a fair price.
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WOW!! That's a great buy on that gun, Wish I could find one for sale locally.
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That is only slightly above half of what it would cost in my area. Nice find!
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I just read the model 18 was possibly made as a LE training gun for transition to the mode 19. Anyone have information or can substantiate that?
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I just read the model 18 was possibly made as a LE training gun for transition to the mode 19. Anyone have information or can substantiate that?
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Never heard that, but what do I know.
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Go out and buy a few LOTTO tickets. You may be equally as LUCKY with them as that FIND. Great snag there. Enjoy it.
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Nice Model 18-3 !
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I just read the model 18 was possibly made as a LE training gun for transition to the mode 19. Anyone have information or can substantiate that?
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IIRC the K-38 "Combat Masterpiece" was introduced just prior to the 4" K-22 (around 1949 ish), while many Police depts probably used the smaller caliber gun as a trainer the K frame .357 "Combat Magnum" was not introduced until late 1955.
The K-22 "Combat Masterpiece" initially was the same as the 6" K-22 with a shorter barrel but by 1955 the 4" and 6" K-22's have different frame and barrel profiles.
Lastly while all factory Mod 18 revisions were 4" not all 6" K-22's are Mod 17's and while Model 17 variations are mostly 6" some revisions were offered in 8,3/8" and later in 4" lengths as well.
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Nice Model 18-3 !
IIRC the K-38 "Combat Masterpiece" was introduced just prior to the 4" K-22 (around 1949 ish), while many Police depts probably used the smaller caliber gun as a trainer the K frame .357 "Combat Magnum" was not introduced until late 1955.
The K-22 "Combat Masterpiece" initially was the same as the 6" K-22 with a shorter barrel but by 1955 the 4" and 6" K-22's have different frame and barrel profiles.
Lastly while all factory Mod 18 revisions were 4" not all 6" K-22's are Mod 17's and while Model 17 variations are mostly 6" some revisions were offered in 8,3/8" and later in 4" lengths as well.
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Okay now I'm both cross-eyed and dizzy.
I have seen numerous GB listings for "pre model 17s, but they have 4" tapered barrels. So aren't these Combat Masterpieces (pre Mod 18s) instead? Because of the tapered barrels?
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Never heard that, but what do I know.
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I found it on Wikipedia
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Okay now I'm both cross-eyed and dizzy.
I have seen numerous GB listings for "pre model 17s, but they have 4" tapered barrels. So aren't these Combat Masterpieces (pre Mod 18s) instead? Because of the tapered barrels?
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Depends.... If it is an original factory made 4" K-22 that pre dates the model numbering system its actually a K-22 Combat Masterpiece", If its easier for you to think of it as a "Pre 18" then yes.
If someone cuts down a 6" K-22 Masterpiece" to 4" its really not but would look like one IMO .
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Depends.... If it is an original factory made 4" K-22 that pre dates the model numbering system its actually a K-22 Combat Masterpiece", If its easier for you to think of it as a "Pre 18" then yes.
If someone cuts down a 6" K-22 Masterpiece" to 4" its really not but would look like one IMO .
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No, I generally prefer to call the guns by their proper nomenclature. the whole pre thing is buggy, since Smith & Wesson never made and named anything as a "Pre".
That's why I made mention of GB listings that are misidentifying guns for auction.
Lots of Combat Masterpieces being pushed as "pre 17s".
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