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02-22-2016, 04:13 PM
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Price Check Model 13-3 3" Barrel With Box, Tools and Paperwork 98%
Looking for a price check, Model 13-3 with 3" Barrel, Comes with Box, Tools and Paperwork. Condition wise is 98% .. Thinking hard about grabbing this, Just not sure what a good, fair price, offer would be. Whatcha think ?
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02-22-2016, 04:26 PM
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Low.......$500
High......$700
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02-22-2016, 04:28 PM
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What are they asking?
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02-22-2016, 05:04 PM
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Asking 750.00 .. I did some research and previous sales. I thought it was a bit high. I was thinking more like 650.00
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02-22-2016, 05:18 PM
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Buy it. $750 is upper end for just the gun. box and accessories and that package would go for $900+? on gunbroker.
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02-22-2016, 05:20 PM
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That would be about right for a nickel gun, maybe $50.00 too much for a blue version; but those are not being made anymore and six months from now $750.00 might be a steal.
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02-22-2016, 05:27 PM
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It sounds high but not very...I'd try a slightly lower offer but if you want it bring the full $750, or see if they will let it go OTD for that. Good luck in your decision.
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02-22-2016, 06:59 PM
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Asking 750.00 .. I did some research and previous sales. I thought it was a bit high. I was thinking more like 650.00
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If as described -- a 3" Model 13-3 in 98% condition (essentially perfect cosmetically and mechanically), with the factory correct, numbered box, tools and paperwork -- that's a highly sought-after configuration in collectible condition; $750 isn't a bad price at all, and would likely go for hundreds more on GB with the right seller behind it.
Haggle, naturally -- but...
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02-22-2016, 07:08 PM
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If as described -- a 3" Model 13-3 in 98% condition (essentially perfect cosmetically and mechanically), with the factory correct, numbered box, tools and paperwork -- that's a highly sought-after configuration in collectible condition; $750 isn't a bad price at all, and would likely go for hundreds more on GB with the right seller behind it.
Haggle, naturally -- but...
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The more I keep thinking about, the more I want to grab it. It would be a shooter, but I wouldn't shoot it hard, I think at 750.00 he is getting every dime out of it. But it's nice and i'm going to lose some sleep tonight LOL
Thanks for all the imput fella's.
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02-22-2016, 07:26 PM
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Well for all the experts that say it's worth hundreds more than the asking price. I had one listed right on this forum for sale and not a one response.
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02-22-2016, 07:35 PM
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Well for all the experts that say it's worth hundreds more than the asking price. I had one listed right on this forum for sale and not a one response.
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Put it on gun broker. this forum has much more sensible members.
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02-22-2016, 10:53 PM
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Well for all the experts that say it's worth hundreds more than the asking price. I had one listed right on this forum for sale and not a one response.
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Couple of things:
1) Yours was a nice looking 13 and overall package; sometimes we just don't catch a wave.
2) The hammer's bobbed but still has single-action capability; likely not factory original, which chases off buyers willing to spend upper dollars for collectible (read: factory original) items.
3) All you describe about condition is the buyer "won't be disappointed"; vagueness chases off potential buyers, too.
4) You gave it less than a week, only one bump, then withdrew; not a lot of time for a committed seller.
5) You insisted on a face-to-face sell; that dramatically reduces your odds on a non-local forum.
6) Your single data point experience, frustrating though it was, doesn't the final word make on what similar items will sell for.
As a counterpoint, a well-established online and brick-and-mortar firearms seller has two 3" 13s (a -3 and -4) currently for sale, good condition, gun alone, for approximately $1100 and $1200, respectively. I think those asks are nuts and the 13s will eventually sell for less, but the owners know their business -- especially selling older S&Ws -- and clearly think it's a seller's market for these particular items.
OP's description is of a significantly better get, and the price is almost a catch.
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Couple of things:
1) Yours was a nice looking 13 and overall package; sometimes we just don't catch a wave.
2) The hammer's bobbed but still has single-action capability; likely not factory original, which chases off buyers willing to spend upper dollars for collectible (read: factory original) items.
3) All you describe about condition is the buyer "won't be disappointed"; vagueness chases off potential buyers, too.
4) You gave it less than a week, only one bump, then withdrew; not a lot of time for a committed seller.
5) You insisted on a face-to-face sell; that dramatically reduces your odds on a non-local forum.
6) Your single data point experience, frustrating though it was, doesn't the final word make on what similar items will sell for.
As a counterpoint, a well-established online and brick-and-mortar firearms seller has two 3" 13s (a -3 and -4) currently for sale, good condition, gun alone, for approximately $1100 and $1200, respectively. I think those asks are nuts and the 13s will eventually sell for less, but the owners know their business -- especially selling older S&Ws -- and clearly think it's a seller's market for these particular items.
OP's description is of a significantly better get, and the price is almost a catch.
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You make some assumptions. You do not know me or my experience level. As for the condition one can make their own evaluation as you are going to see the gun in a FTF transaction before deciding if you want it. Truth is no less than 98% and probably many would say 99% condition. You don't know why I would do FTF only. You know nothing about the bobbed hammer.You don't know if I got frustrated or not. I doubt if you know anyone who has bought eight 3" M65 and M13's over the last 18 months. None from the internet none from gun show tables but one did come from a gun store. Not everyone uses the same methods to sell something. I do know now how to get one shipped through a FFL and that is why the ad was withdrawn, but I never relisted it.
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...Hapworth, Can you explain what it means to be a "right seller"? I have only sold seven guns on GunBroker so far so I am new to those auction sites and all the ins and outs.
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GB sellers with long, established track records of selling top condition collectibles to satisfied buyers generally command higher prices for their offerings based on their reputation; collectors will pay more for a trusted source. This is what was meant by the "right seller" getting a higher than average sale.
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You make some assumptions.
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Sure -- necessary in the absence of all salient information on a subject you introduced; it doesn't de facto mean, though, that the assertions are incorrect.
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You do not know me or my experience level.
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Granted, but neither is relevant to the discussion, which is about a sale the OP is considering, price involved, and its comparison to a sale you recently attempted.
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As for the condition one can make their own evaluation as you are going to see the gun in a FTF transaction before deciding if you want it...
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Yes they can, but if you'd given a condition description (really, any at all, and better yet a detailed one) a potential buyer might be more inclined to take a chance on meeting you face-to-face to inspect; as it stands, not adequately describing it is likely to leave more experienced buyers questioning why you didn't, and passing.
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You don't know why I would do FTF only.
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True, but again irrelevant. Why you elect FTF doesn't matter. The point is that choosing it undoubtedly affected your chance of a sale on this forum by drastically diminishing your pool of potential buyers, yet you held your non-sale up as an example of a pricing indicator applicable to the discussion in this thread; it isn't.
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You know nothing about the bobbed hammer.
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I know a factory original bob on that model would be very uncommon; and a factory bob that retained single-action capability uncommon atop uncommon. Interesting that you challenge knowledge instead of simply explaining your revolver's provenance; if that's factory original, why not advertise that -- it would increase interest and asking price for its utility and peculiarity. If it's not factory original, again, it helps explain why you got "not a one response".
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You're right, but your posts in this thread sure imply that you did.
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I doubt if you know anyone who has bought eight 3" M65 and M13's over the last 18 months. None from the internet none from gun show tables but one did come from a gun store. Not everyone uses the same methods to sell something...
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Again, all irrelevant to the topic, which was your challenging estimates of one item's price because your sale didn't command its price. There are distinct differences in the two situations that help account for that.
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You make some assumptions. You do not know me or my experience level. As for the condition one can make their own evaluation as you are going to see the gun in a FTF transaction before deciding if you want it. Truth is no less than 98% and probably many would say 99% condition. You don't know why I would do FTF only. You know nothing about the bobbed hammer.You don't know if I got frustrated or not. I doubt if you know anyone who has bought eight 3" M65 and M13's over the last 18 months. None from the internet none from gun show tables but one did come from a gun store. Not everyone uses the same methods to sell something. I do know now how to get one shipped through a FFL and that is why the ad was withdrawn, but I never relisted it.
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Zip dog I too looked at your ad and didn't respond because you wanted a local deal. Nothing wrong with that ,but it stopped me from even asking about it.
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Zip dog I too looked at your ad and didn't respond because you wanted a local deal. Nothing wrong with that ,but it stopped me from even asking about it.
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Thanks for replying. Besides not knowing how to ship guns when I listed it thus FTF only I get much satisfaction seeing a buyer being pleased with their purchase. I knew the chances were very slim I would make a sale in a FTF on a forum like this. Since it was free to list I took a gamble. Sure the bobbed hammer is a turn off to many buyers but I'm not one to embelish a listing like I sometimes see on GB listings about some real or imagined varation. I'm in the process of a local sale with it now. Not sure I would use GB to sell something but I will use the classifieds here again. Thanks
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Where are all these 3" model 13's for 4 - 5 hundred bucks?? Cannot find a single one near that price near me. I will be checking OGCA in a couple of weeks. Prices for good example seem to be higher there.
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Three months ago, I saw one at a pawnshop listed at $620. It had no box or papers, and it had a few minor handling marks and slight bluing wear at the muzzle; it was nowhere near 98%. However, it was tight, clean, and had zero discernible flame cutting, a fantastic shooter-grade revolver. The seller would not budge one penny on the price, unusual for a pawnshop, so I passed. I now regret that decision. Right now, $750 might seem a shade high, but three months from now, it could be a bargain. These are no longer being made in this configuration (3" round butt, no IL), and they are not likely to start rolling off the line any time soon.
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Thanks for replying. Besides not knowing how to ship guns when I listed it thus FTF only I get much satisfaction seeing a buyer being pleased with their purchase. I knew the chances were very slim I would make a sale in a FTF on a forum like this. Since it was free to list I took a gamble. Sure the bobbed hammer is a turn off to many buyers but I'm not one to embelish a listing like I sometimes see on GB listings about some real or imagined varation. I'm in the process of a local sale with it now. Not sure I would use GB to sell something but I will use the classifieds here again. Thanks
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I was not turned off by the bobbed hammer. In fact I like that it still had the sa ,that way if I wanted I could just swap out the hammer. I too like face to face sales but you can't always find nice guns locally.
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