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And only Bill Jordan can make a big N-Frame look like a J-Frame in his hand... he has got be the person S&W used in that ad.
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Or, that blonde woman Jerry took out for lobster on 'Seinfeld.' The one who could pop open beer bottles with her hands.
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The 4" S&W 57/657 is my favorite Smith and one one of my favorite guns of all times... Have had a bunch of them over the years but this is what I have left...
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1979 Class A engraved 57
1964 57 with Cokes
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I only have 4 , 41 magnums . 2 model 57's , one 6" blue and one 4" nickel . I have a model 58 carried in a custom shoulder holster and last is a ruger blackhawk 4 5/8" barrel .
My sister has a S&W 57 in 4" nickel , it is her all time favorite revolver / caliber . So yes , 41's in my family are held in high regard .
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Am I the only one who thinks that the company used a Combat Magnum in the advertisement instead of a Model 57......?
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Model 19s generally didn't come from the factory with a red ramp front sight or Target Hammer which that gun appears to have...
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SuperMan, wow that is a nice collection of .41s.
Thanks for sharing.
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And only Bill Jordan can make a big N-Frame look like a J-Frame in his hand... he has got be the person S&W used in that ad.
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Jordan or King Kong.
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Jordan or King Kong.
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I shook Jordan's hand one time at the SHOT Show...I'm 6'2 180 and I felt small next to him... I take a XL glove and his hand swallowed mine..
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{Six quick shots w/quick reload for six more} "That's the kind of firepower a man wants slung on his hip when he's in game country..."
Maybe the man who expects to encounter a pride of hungry lions?
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No. That was my first thought, also. Because if it's an N-frame, that's one massive hand!
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You can verify the revolver in the photo is a 41 Magnum (N-frame) by examining the area on the frame in front of the cylinder. An N-frame has a flat area on the frame under the area where the barrel enters the frame, but a Combat Magnum has a rounded area. I didn't explain this very elequently, but if you compare the two models side by side the difference is readily apparent.
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Notice the price.....$140.00. The stocks would cost almost that much today.
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I like the .41 Mag. It's a well behaved ctg.
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Notice the price.....$140.00. The stocks would cost almost that much today.
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...Cokes that came on the first couple of years of production are more like 4-6X the original purchase price... Saw a set on eBay a few months ago sell for $800....
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So has anyone picked up any new .41s?
My last two were both Rugers... 4.2" and 2.5" Redhawks...
Anyone get one of the Henry rifles yet?
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Older thread but some good information...
41 Magnum, December 1964
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And only Bill Jordan can make a big N-Frame look like a J-Frame in his hand... he has got be the person S&W used in that ad.
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He must also be the person they used when designing the original N-frame target stocks. They look beautiful, but HOLY SMOKES! There can't be 5% of the population that can actually grip them properly.
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I am part of that 5% I quess because I like target stocks and stocks that cover that back strap. But, then I wear XXL gloves and rip the seams open on XL if I force my hands into them.
Magnas are just way to small for many of us.
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Yeah, nice high hold on a .41 Magnum...that might sting a bit 
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My hands are big enough I can choke up on an N frame & not get battered too badly.
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So has anyone picked up any new .41s?
My last two were both Rugers... 4.2" and 2.5" Redhawks...
Anyone get one of the Henry rifles yet?
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I bought a Henry Big Boy Steele a month ago, sighted it at 100 yards, 1" groups with 210 jsp. Love the new "brush" gun, goes well with 57's and 58.
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I am hoping they will come out with the 16" Big Loop model...
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There is a Henry .41 in our LGS now, it's a beautiful rifle. I think they are better made that the Marlin nowdays. I'll bet it'd shoot very flat with a 210gr bullet. I think Elmer Keith said years ago that the then new .41 shot a bit flatter than his .44 mag.
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They have... also for 2017, they are coming out with .327 Federal Mag rifles.. whoooo-hoooo!!
Read it and drool - New for 2017 | Henry Repeating Arms
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Doc44 and shawn mc carver:
Thank you both for the responses. I really didn't think the company would use another gun for the advertisement, BUT,....holy moley! whomever is holding that gun has a outfielder's mitt for a right hand!!!!!!
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My 1980 6" nickel, factory fired only.
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That is beautiful!
Mike you aren't going to keep it unfired are you? That one begs to be taken to the hills & shot.
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Thanks Frank! You betcha I'm gonna shoot it. Bought one box of Remington cartridges for my baseline and have hand loaded 3 different recipes as well. Was waiting till xmas as my son bought me a chronograph. I'll have it out in the near future. I have the other 4 N calibers circa 79-80 as well. Several were NIB, no safe queens here. Smith made them to shoot and I damn well do.
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Thanks Frank! You betcha I'm gonna shoot it. Bought one box of Remington cartridges for my baseline and have hand loaded 3 different recipes as well. Was waiting till xmas as my son bought me a chronograph. I'll have it out in the near future. I have the other 4 N calibers circa 79-80 as well. Several were NIB, no safe queens here. Smith made them to shoot and I damn well do.
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Hey I'm waiting to hear about your chronograph sessions. I've got a chrony & really like it. Do you have any 700X, my Cousin got me to using it for light loads in the .41 with lead bullets it's a lot of fun. Be sure to post a range report.
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Mike...that is quite the gun....enjoy!!
The factory 210 Remington JSP should be doing in the area of 1300-1350 fps from a 6" barrel. They run 1250 from the 4" 57s I have.
Let us know what your loads are and how they run...
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...another photo showing the rather large hands of Bill Jordan...
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ParadiseRoad, thanks for sharing that photo.
Have you read No Second Place Winner? It's a great book.
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...no...I haven't read his book...I really should look for a copy...
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I'd ask my library, I've had library's borrow books from other librarys if they don't have it.
Go on Amazon if you want a copy for yourself, they might have it it's well worth having. Most people carry autos now, but a LOT of his information carrys over to autos.
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Went over to Amazon to see if they have this book. Found one place that puts a very high premium on "No Second Place Winner."
It's a new hard cover book at only $2,443.78. 
Plus $3.99 for shipping.
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Wow they must have the decimal point in the wrong place????
I'd hope.
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Just like some gun listings on Gunbroker.... someone is waiting for a sucker to bite. The funny thing about it, is that there are 4 sellers, and they are all in lockstep with each other on the price within a few cents... hmmmmm.
Go look at the used/out of print book websites:
Advanced Book Exchange (abebooks.com) has them starting at $17.50.
Alibris (alibris.com) has a few too, but higher.
I mainly use ABE for out of print books... better selections and cheaper prices.
And... you ought to see the prices being asked for either of Skeet Skelton's 2 books... a Century note and higher, if you can find them.
Also about Jordan and his giant sized hands... he found the S&W target grips too small, and did like how they are narrow at the tops to do his high hold.
He came up with the Herrett Jordan grips. I bought a used set off of eBay... my God, I had to spend 20 minutes with a Dremel tool and a sanding drum to whittle them down to normal human proportions to fit my hand... I couldn't reach the trigger beforehand.
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If you can find a copy of one for a reasonable price they are well worth the read. Mine was purchased when they first came out & autographed by Bill Jordan. I don't even loan it out.
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