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Photo...USAF Security Police Combat Masterpiece...
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She's cute, but the dog is far more threatening!
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The bite would be worse than the bark on both counts here .
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That old insult "Ya, well your mother wears army boots!" insult couldn't be used here, because she really did wear army boots!
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That old insult "Ya, well your mother wears army boots!" insult couldn't be used here, because she really did wear army boots!
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Those sir, are Air Force boots, not Army boots!
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That's what I used to earn my Small Arms Markmanship Ribbon!
And I didn't have a dog to spot for me!
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Those sir, are Air Force boots, not Army boots!
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Actually, they are Corcoran jump boots, famous for parading Army Airborne troopers and a few Air Force PJs I've worked with in the past. My son is Air Force so I won't go any further
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That old insult "Ya, well your mother wears army boots!" insult couldn't be used here, because she really did wear army boots!
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I always heard it as
"Yeah? Well your mom wears COMBAT boots!"
That would work in this case - flyboys (and girls) engage in combat in those, don't they?
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That is the trifecta. Beautiful S&W Combat Masterpiece, an attractive woman that knows how to use it and large well trained dog. Why focus on the foot ware? I'm a little confused............again.
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Oh no! Not a boot thread!
Depending on when this pic was shot, her boots could be standard AF issue.
Way back when, like when we were shooting 38s, the standard issue boot was cap toed.
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Beautiful gun and dog. I think the airman looks kind of like a dude.
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Oh no! Not a boot thread!
Depending on when this pic was shot, her boots could be standard AF issue.
Way back when, like when we were shooting 38s, the standard issue boot was cap toed.
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The standard boots when I was in were short-topped "brogans."
As an AP, I wore real (bloused) boots when not in low-quarter dress shoes. This S/Sgt. is an AF cop or designated as Security Forces. She has the dark blue beret authorized for that career field. She'd be able to wear those boots. Some were fitted with zippers on the sides, to enable them to be donned more quickly during alerts. When in dress blues, the boots often had white laces.
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The standard boots when I was in were short-topped "brogans."
As an AP, I wore real (bloused) boots when not in low-quarter dress shoes. This S/Sgt. is an AF cop or designated as Security Forces. She has the dark blue beret authorized for that career field. She'd be able to wear those boots. Some were fitted with zippers on the sides, to enable them to be donned more quickly during alerts. When in dress blues, the boots often had white laces.
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Ok. When you wore real bloused boots, did they have capped toes?
Back then, When I wore real unbloused issue boots, let me assure you they had capped toes.
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+1 on 29-1's post...I still have a pair of the Corcorans. Excellent boots.
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She's cute, but the dog is far more threatening!
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Not threatening yet its upper lip isn't in a snarl and its ears aren't laid back in attack mode also its hackle isn't raised making it look almost like a Mohawk along the top of its back .. When my GSD goes into attack mode she is much more threatening and frightening then that !!
Wonder what year that picture was taken ..
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Ok. When you wore real bloused boots, did they have capped toes?
Back then, When I wore real unbloused issue boots, let me assure you they had capped toes.
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Yes, the toes were capped. I don't think my son's boots from the Iraq war are capped, but they 're very comfortable, he says, and he still wears them a lot.
He was in the Army . Don't know if current USAF boots are identical. I served in the 1960's.
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No one has dated the picture yet but IIRC the cammie fatigues were early '80's, and the M15's were replaced late 80's.
My initial issue boots at Lackland in'63 were plain toe and they were the standard clothing sales offering for the next 8 years. Once out of ATC c/s inspections and on the flightline in the real AF, anything black was fine. NCO's particularly wore whatever they wanted on the job, and I worked with one that wore cowboy boots, while several wore Wellingtons/Ropers.
We were also allowed to draw "wing walker " brogans that had a soft sole from supply if we wanted them. Guys with a Rx wore tennis shoes, and there were a few pair of capped toes among the troops (source unknown).
Seemed like most of the sky cops had them as well, and usually they were square-laced with white para cord.
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The AF cap toed boats preceded the plain toes.
I had and wore both.
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I was issued "brogans" with capped toe, and "jump boots" with capped toe. They would spit shine like a mirror, but when worn in the hot sun, the polish melted down and became cloudy. I had my dress shoes made of corfam, so didn't need polishing. Also had my leather gear corfamed.
My special jump boots for walking the flight line security had triple soles and heels. Heavy, but comfortable as ever.
We laced with either the spider lacing (white laces for ceremonial purposes or honor guard), or the ladder lacing on the jump boots.
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Boots
Boots, everyone in the Military wore boots. I thought this was an USAF Combat Masterpiece tread. I carried a worn out, rattling 1911 that I wouldn't trade for. But we all admired the Smiths the AF, and chopper pilots carried. Love the pix of the dog handler and her Combat Masterpiece. Freedom's not Free
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Damn nice ensemble, that.
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No earlier than 1995 or 1996. That's when the Defensor Fortis flash was authorized. Prior to that the flash was the MAJCOM you were in. That was also the time frame when the short collar woodlands came around.
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Yes, the "Defensor Fortis" beret device came into use in early 1997 when "Security Police" became "Security Forces," along with a number of different organizational and responsibility changes, many of them not very popular. I think SF dog handlers used Model 15s later than anyone else - much better for firing blanks during dog training exercises than the M9. They may still use them for training purposes.
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