|
|
10-15-2016, 10:18 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
factory mirror polish
I have searched;
Looking at two high dollar revovlers, both have-allegedly-been mirror polished at Smith; how practical is this for a cc gun (lined holster) will fine scratches eventually show and if so how noticeable will this be?
The guns are magnificent to look at....
|
10-15-2016, 10:20 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
stainless of course
|
10-15-2016, 10:54 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 8,161
Likes: 3,622
Liked 5,210 Times in 2,174 Posts
|
|
Highly polished guns are adored for looks by some, BUT they show every little mark, fingerprint and blemish.
A matte finish is more practical for holster use. ANY gun carried in a holster will eventually show it.
__________________
Science plus Art
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-15-2016, 11:10 AM
|
Banned
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 12,572
Likes: 21,054
Liked 32,463 Times in 7,773 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsn
I have searched;
Looking at two high dollar revolvers, both have-allegedly-been mirror polished at Smith; how practical is this for a cc gun (lined holster) will fine scratches eventually show and if so how noticeable will this be?
The guns are magnificent to look at....
|
Well, you don't say what model the revolvers are, and I have to admit, I'd be a bit leery of someone telling me they'd been mirror-polished at the factory. But anyway, fine scratches and tiny marks are easily polished out of a stainless revolver, no matter if it's been mirror-polished or not. If it's a gun (or guns) I truly wanted, I wouldn't let the polish deter me from buying it. It is, after all, your money.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OKFC05
Highly polished guns are adored for looks by some, BUT they show every little mark, fingerprint and blemish.
|
There probably isn't a week goes by that someone doesn't say that exact same thing on one gun forum or another. I'm not saying it isn't true...but I'm waiting on someone to show me a blued revolver or pistol (matte finish or otherwise) that won't show fingerprints, scratches, marks, whatever.
That blued gun doesn't exist, unless it lives in a sealed display case or something and is only handled with cotton gloves.
|
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-15-2016, 11:17 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 8,161
Likes: 3,622
Liked 5,210 Times in 2,174 Posts
|
|
The OP specified he was looking at stainless, but yes, if anything, a highly polished blued gun is worse. I have a friend with a pristine collection of highly polished blued pythons he does not shoot, and he only handles them with cotton gloves. If you wanted to put one in a holster, he would probably faint.
__________________
Science plus Art
|
10-15-2016, 11:47 AM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,909
Likes: 991
Liked 19,033 Times in 9,313 Posts
|
|
If you keep them coated with wax and away from heavy abrasion, I doubt you'll have to worry much about the polished finish going bad.
However, if you are paying a premium for "factory" work, there are many more aftermarket than original high polish finishes out there, so for me a careful examination for rounded edges, blurred stampings and a history letter would be key to paying more.
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
|
10-15-2016, 11:55 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Near Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 51
Likes: 39
Liked 40 Times in 12 Posts
|
|
OP, If the guns are magnificent to look at, please post some photos.
|
10-15-2016, 12:11 PM
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Pikeville, Tennessee
Posts: 6,070
Likes: 923
Liked 9,964 Times in 3,661 Posts
|
|
Maintaining/touching up a polished surface on bare metal (stainless/whatever) is child's play------------------IF!!!! If you use the EXACT SAME grit abrasive that was used to create the original polished finish. If you use ANYTHING else (either courser or finer) you will have no trouble whatsoever in spotting your touch-up---now known as a major boo-boo---------which can (also) be repaired--------------IF!!!!
Piece of cake, right?!! Right--------what's the original grit?
That's a good question---let me know when you find the answer---and I won't hold my breath.
Of course, such major boo-boos can easily be overcome by polishing the entire piece with a grit of your choice---which is probably not what you had in mind.
Measure twice, cut once!!
Ralph Tremaine
As an aside, a matte finish on bare metal can also be easily maintained/touched up-----IF. If you use the EXACT SAME media (glass beads/whatever), the EXACT SAME line pressure, and the EXACT SAME angle of attack.
There are two well known---and old---and pithy sayings at work here: "There ain't no free lunch." and "You pay for your thrills."
Last edited by rct269; 10-15-2016 at 12:31 PM.
|
10-15-2016, 12:24 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 3,450
Likes: 37
Liked 5,435 Times in 1,762 Posts
|
|
To me, buying a shiny new gun is kind of like marrying a 22-year-old beauty queen -- 30 years and 3 kids later, she may show a few grey hairs and some wrinkles, but that doesn't mean she's not still a great performer!
__________________
Pisgah
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-15-2016, 12:34 PM
|
Banned
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 12,572
Likes: 21,054
Liked 32,463 Times in 7,773 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OKFC05
The OP specified he was looking at stainless, but yes, if anything, a highly polished blued gun is worse.
|
I wasn't particularly talking about a highly polished blued gun. I meant any blued gun.
But yes, I also know folks who are totally obsessive about the finish on their guns, fretting over any real or perceived "damage" to the finish.
I like to keep my guns in good shape...mechanically and finish-wise, but the fact is, if you use a gun, it's gonna show use and wear marks.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-15-2016, 01:06 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: R.T. P, area NC
Posts: 9,718
Likes: 29,595
Liked 23,021 Times in 5,791 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OKFC05
The OP specified he was looking at stainless, but yes, if anything, a highly polished blued gun is worse. I have a friend with a pristine collection of highly polished blued pythons he does not shoot, and he only handles them with cotton gloves. If you wanted to put one in a holster, he would probably faint.
|
Quote:
actory mirror polish
I have searched;
Looking at two high dollar revovlers, both have-allegedly-been mirror polished at Smith; how practical is this for a cc gun (lined holster) will fine scratches eventually show and if so how noticeable will this be?
The guns are magnificent to look at....
|
Above is a direct "copy paste" of the O/P's post. I don't see the word stainless anywhere in it. Have I missed Something?
I just did, and boy is my face red. Thank you
__________________
Always Stay Strong!
Last edited by old bear; 10-16-2016 at 10:04 AM.
Reason: Have to eat a little crow..
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-15-2016, 01:31 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ALBUQUERQUE, NM
Posts: 13,893
Likes: 8,098
Liked 25,425 Times in 8,550 Posts
|
|
Look at post #2.
What models are these guns?
Pictures would be nice to see!
__________________
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Last edited by THE PILGRIM; 10-15-2016 at 01:32 PM.
|
10-15-2016, 03:33 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
Appreciate the replies, both are model 60's and both indeed were polished at the Factory, the current pricing for buffing is $275.
Not able to provide pictures but saying that the finish has been mirror polished is very-very accurate and it certainly appears that parts were removed prior to the work being done.
I'll continue to nose around to try and find out if its a dumb idea for a carry gun, though my 64 which was carried daily for many years shows remarkably little contact wear-shoulder holster.
tnks
|
10-15-2016, 03:40 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
these pics pretty much sum things up
Polishing Stainless Steel Gun to Mirror Finish
link should be fixed
This guys does nice work also..
Last edited by gsn; 10-15-2016 at 03:45 PM.
|
10-15-2016, 03:49 PM
|
Banned
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 12,572
Likes: 21,054
Liked 32,463 Times in 7,773 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsn
I'll continue to nose around to try and find out if its a dumb idea for a carry gun...
|
Why would it be a dumb idea?
If you want to carry it, carry it. If you're looking for a carry gun but think one of these is too expensive and too pretty to carry, don't buy it.
I bought a Model 40 once. Wish I hadn't. It was unfired. NIB. I'd been looking for a carry piece. The gun was so pretty, so pristine, I couldn't bear the thought of carrying the thing in any fashion...pocket, holster, whatever. There used to be photos of it on this forum...last year, I think.
I'm not a collector, really. So I basically wasted my time and money buying it. I sold it about a month or so later.
|
10-15-2016, 04:37 PM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,909
Likes: 991
Liked 19,033 Times in 9,313 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by old bear
Above is a direct "copy paste" of the O/P's post. I don't see the word stainless anywhere in it. Have I missed Something?
|
Yes, in post 2 .
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-15-2016, 04:52 PM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 26,909
Likes: 991
Liked 19,033 Times in 9,313 Posts
|
|
If you like the polished look, there is no reason you shouldn't buy or carry it. The black tacticool folks may disagree .
__________________
Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 06:30 AM
|
|
Absent Comrade
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 12,990
Likes: 17,229
Liked 41,504 Times in 9,146 Posts
|
|
I love my high-polish guns, but I shoot them and they show it. I'd have liked them to always be the perfect mirror they were when new, but the honest wear is fine with me.
|
10-16-2016, 07:59 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
bigwheelzip; a newly polished gun in a non formed lined holster; what would the typical contact wear look like, how soon would wear begin to show. I imagine the barrel tip and cylinder would be affected the most; would any sort of automotive product add protection?
Sincerely appreciate all the info.
|
10-16-2016, 09:07 AM
|
|
Absent Comrade
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 12,990
Likes: 17,229
Liked 41,504 Times in 9,146 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsn
bigwheelzip; a newly polished gun in a non formed lined holster; what would the typical contact wear look like, how soon would wear begin to show. I imagine the barrel tip and cylinder would be affected the most; would any sort of automotive product add protection?
Sincerely appreciate all the info.
|
My high-polish are range queens and don't get conceal carried, only transported to the range in the foam-lined factory boxes. The get enjoyed at the range by myself and most of my guests, then cleaned and put in the safe.
Somehow, they develop that very faintly scratched patina, that I think resembles whats seen in a new car paint finish, when you wash and dry it a few times.
I'd guess that it could re-polished fairly easily, if I were so inclined. My husband is more bothered about the finish than I am, and wishes I'd buy matte or bead-blast finish instead.
I'll add that even with a less than perfect finish, the polished guns always get admired by fellow shooters that see them at the range, sometimes getting double-takes, like mini-skirts at a NYC construction site.
Last edited by bigwheelzip; 10-16-2016 at 09:19 AM.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 09:50 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Central IL
Posts: 22,804
Likes: 18,554
Liked 22,424 Times in 8,277 Posts
|
|
This is a plain ordinary Model 60 that I have had for years. It has been shot and cleaned so often the major portion was already showing shiny wear, so I just took Mothers Mag polish and finished up the job. About an hour to hand rub out what was left not shiny. It comes close to resembling a nickel finish. It does seem to draw from a belt holster a little smoother.
__________________
H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 10:30 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: trail's end in ol' Wyo
Posts: 7,252
Likes: 17,484
Liked 18,452 Times in 5,052 Posts
|
|
I used Mother's Mag on my 640 Pro (about 4 hours -- I'm slow) and it looked like a mirror. It's with me all day, every day, and, yes, it starts to "go back to its roots" after a few weeks -- especially noticeable on the flat surfaces. Time at the range, cleaning, and a little time with the Mother's and it's back to its blingy self. I would not pay somebody to do that for me.
__________________
Wrangler of stray Chiefs
Bob
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 11:12 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 15,138
Likes: 91,876
Liked 26,397 Times in 8,417 Posts
|
|
This model 60 had a lot of tiny scratches when I found it,but the price was right.A few hours with mothers mag polish cleaned it up nicely.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 11:33 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New England
Posts: 4,189
Likes: 3,543
Liked 3,996 Times in 1,627 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WATCHDOG
I like to keep my guns in good shape...mechanically and finish-wise, but the fact is, if you use a gun, it's gonna show use and wear marks.
|
THIS IS A VERY REASONABLE APPROACH TO GUN OWNERSHIP, WATCHDOG. BECOMING OBSESSED WITH KEEPING A GUN COMPLETELY FREE OF ANY TINY MARKS, WILL SOON TAKE THE JOY OUT OF SHOOTING IT.......
__________________
'Nam 1968-69.DAV,VFW,NRA Inst.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 03:32 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: God's Country
Posts: 4,711
Likes: 1,235
Liked 3,535 Times in 1,770 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsn
|
Patriot is not Smith and Wesson. Did Smith polish them, or did someone else?
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
10-16-2016, 06:34 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
The guns were polished at Smith-the Patriot link was posted for anyone who has not seen a professional mirror finish.
|
10-17-2016, 11:35 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 1,284
Likes: 2,972
Liked 1,494 Times in 702 Posts
|
|
gsn,
Thanks for the link to Patriot. The gallery photos are mystifying as to how they can get anything that polished and yet the roll marks remain crisp. Not sure I will ever use the service but I did bookmark it. Having wrote that, my mind not being exactly right, I can see having a beater stainless Model 64 laser engraved then having Patriot polish it. Costly - yes, makes sense - not even. Welcome to my world. regards, hardcase60
__________________
You want me to do what?
|
10-18-2016, 05:39 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 275
Likes: 15
Liked 96 Times in 69 Posts
|
|
HC, my thoughts also on the markings and finish-it would seem that one -should- preclude the other.
I have emailed the Company to see what they charge-my factory fired only 64, circa '75, most probably will be taking a trip out west-I'll post what info I get back.
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|