Scored a really clean model 19-3 4" yesterday and was surprized to to find it had .500 hammer and trigger with red ramp front sight and white outlined rear. Is this common or perhaps a special order?
Thanks in advance for your good council.

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Not my cup of tea...... but ....sweeet!

Did you get the box? might help the experts with info on the end tag.

Love to have it but sadly no box.

No way to know without either the original box or a factory letter. S&W made and shipped many that way, and many others were dolled up aftermarket, both by post-retail owners and by shops offering them for sale. The hammers, triggers and white outline rear sight blades were widely available as parts.

Nice looking gun, there.

Yes, a really nice find. Congratulations and the stocks look really nice. However, based on your photograph your gun sure looks like stainless steel. But since it is a Md 19, I guess it must be nickel.

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By the inscription in the yoke it is a Model 19. Probably needs a good polishing.

Nice! The M19-5 was the one that really brought in the wide hammer and trigger and fancy sights. They must have become factory standard at that point. This one is from 1984. I've never seen a -3 all dressed up like that. My guess is that somebody improved the gun after purchase. One of the prettiest guns I own.

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This is my 19-3 from 1976. I'm the 2nd owner, and am pretty certain this is how it came from the factory. It has target trigger, target hammer, red ramp, white outline, and trigger stop.

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I added RR/WO to mine myself.......Also added target hammer and smooth ranger trigger.........And in 1986 when the forcing cone split while shooting cast bullets......I ordered a barrel and changed it out......Now it mostly sleeps in the safe.

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Very nice score! In my opinion, your 19-3 very well could of shipped with those features mentioned; I've seen one before. My question is has that 19 been refinished with something other than nickel? The hammer and trigger also do not look to be case hardened, but it could just be how I am seeing it. Is there a "N" stamped on the cylinder and/or the grip frame under the stocks? Can you post more pictures?

My 19-4 is nickel-plated. Barrel is not pinned but cylinder chambers are recessed. It has a red ramp front sight. It has a .500" color case-hardened hammer and smooth .500" color case hardened trigger. SCS&W says is should have a pinned barrel, but there is no sign it ever did - no hole in the frame. The nickel is factory.

My 19-2 came with target hammer and trigger, but not the RR and WO. I once owned a blue 19-3 that came, brand new, with all of the aforementioned features.

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I have a email from Don somewhere on my PC that is a sales flair for the original combat magnum. Those options could be ordered way back then. I am speaking of the Pre 19 era. So IMO could it have shipped that ? Yes. Did it ship that way ? Only a factory letter would tell. I did buy a 19-3 nickel that had those options on it and they were done by the factory but it was when it was shipped back for a little custom work.

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Whaaat ??? Now that's interesting. I as usual am now curious if that is due to it being a transitional gun. Maybe right of the transition from the -4 to -5.
Is it lettered?

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4" Combat Magnums came in different configurations but most I have seen made before 1985 either have the standard width trigger and hammer or the "3 T's" with RR insert and WO rear blade so nothing surprising in a Nickel 4" 19-3 with 3 T's & RR/WO IMO.
BTW...At some point around the deletion of the barrel pin there is a shift from the narrow serrated trigger to the smooth combat trigger.

In reply to Harkraders 19-4 a revision change indicates a new part in the gun that either wont swap with the older version (such as the rear site in the 19-2 to 19-3 revision) or has a part that is different than the older version as in the case of the 19-4 to 19-5 revision which will swap but is very different.

If the order came down to delete the barrel pin and stop recessing the 19's cylinder at the same time (not sure on timing ) the supply of recessed cylinders would have been used until depleted to use up old stock of recessed cylinders.
In other words the difference between a 19-4 and a 19-5 is the recessed cylinder where deleting the barrel set pin would not warrant a revision change,
BTW we see the same thing in the Model 27-2 to 27-3 change where late 27-2's do not have a barrel set pin but still have recessed cylinders.

Quote If the order came down to delete the barrel pin and stop recessing the 19's cylinder at the same time (not sure on timing ) the supply of recessed cylinders would have been used until depleted to use up old stock of recessed cylinders.
In other words the difference between a 19-4 and a 19-5 is the recessed cylinder where deleting the barrel set pin would not warrant a revision change,

I had to read and think about this a few times but it makes sense. Thanks for your help.

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Yes, they came from the factory with target triggers,hammers, & red ramp white outline sights as options.



Early 80's 19 on top, late 70's 17 on bottom.

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Here's mine with my 19.

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TH, TT, red ramp and white outline were options for this model (available at extra cost).

Bill

Thanks again Doc44. I had just managed to stop dreaming about this one after seeing it several weeks ago. Now it starts all over:-). Just beautiful.

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my nickel 19-4 (73K36XX) has the standard trigger and hammer (grooved) with a pined barrel and recessed cyclinder and red ramped and white outlined sights,