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Old 01-07-2017, 06:18 PM
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I have been looking at one of two guns lately either a model 17 to go w/the model 14-3 that I already have or another 14 but w/ a slightly longer barrel 8 3/8" aside from aesthetics is there much if any difference in accuracy , velocity with this longer barrel? I hand load so I did not know if I can milk more out of a longer barrel...ie if its worth the investment....I do love the 14s.

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Old 01-07-2017, 06:43 PM
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It's a toss up - the longer model 14 will probably shoot like a rifle, but it is nice to have a .22 revolver also. May I be the first to suggest...buy both .
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Old 01-07-2017, 06:48 PM
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I have both 14s, and the 6" barrel is just as accurate mechanically. The longer sight radius is somewhat of an advantage, but as I get older, it is harder to hold the longer barrel one-handed for Bullseye matches. So unless you are very strong or intend to rest the gun, I'd skip the 8". If you want significantly more bullet speed, get the 6" 686 and shoot .357.


I also have both the 6" and 8" .22s, and the 6" is more practical IMHO.
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Yes my eyes arent as good as they once were & my strength well not so either anymore. I have plenty of 357s just want an accurate fun gun to shoot (i dont do matches)
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Old 01-07-2017, 07:53 PM
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I find the K 22's to be very fun and accurate.
Also versatile my vote would be to scratch that itch first.
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You need to pick up a K-22
Top -- Long barreled 17-3
Bottom -- Six inch a 17-2


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I have a 14-3 in 8.375" and quite happy with it. It is a little bit muzzle-heavy which I consider a detriment because a balanced gun just feels right. Different grips can help.

Recoil is milder and noise is slightly reduced. I assume velocity is greater but for target shooting that doesn't matter unless knocking over steel.

I don't think it is inherently more accurate than other K-frames, but the longer sight picture likely allows most shooters to wring a bit more practical accuracy out of it.

Bottom line, if you like the look, the rarity, or the collectability of the long barrel, go for it. But don't expect radically different results compared to the 6".

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Old 01-09-2017, 12:11 PM
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I personally would go for the .22. Never had a .22 S&W. Do have a 14-3 that I enjoy immensely. Only my opinion. Let us know how you make out! Bob
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:40 PM
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Tough question. Of course the correct answer is to get them both but since we can't always do that I think I'd go with the 8 3/8 model 14. They don't come up for sale all that often but model 17's are readily available.
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If the eyes are an issue, the longer barrel helps, or at least for me. I shoot my 8 3/8" barreled 17 and 14 much better than the short barrels. I need all the help I can get
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Old 01-09-2017, 08:21 PM
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I'd buy the 14. The .38 is more fun to shoot for me. I personally use rifles to shoot the .22s most of the time, though not all of the time.
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Old 01-09-2017, 09:15 PM
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Our original poster did not write how many .22 LRs he has, K frames or others. I like my 8 3/8" K-38, but notice my screen name. If choosing the 14 now means life without a K-22, then certainly buy the K-22. However, there will always be more 6" 17s to buy and I couldn't help but notice --
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[...] ....I do love the 14s.
Excepting the fairly new ones with full lug barrels I find 8 3/8" 14s and 17s hang on target steadier than 6 inchers. Also I can aim more accurately with their longer sight radius. Obviously not every one agrees. I keep reading and hearing that older eyes have more trouble than younger eyes keeping the rear sight reasonably clear while focusing on the front. Maybe that's in my future. My suggestion is try the 8 3/8" 14 then later ad a k-22 in the length that turns out to be your preference.

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Old 01-10-2017, 02:26 AM
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I'd be on the 8-3/8" K14 like a pitbull on a bone. That's a perfect length (longer sight radius) for use with wadcutters for small game or close range varmints. Great for killing tin cans, too.
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One of my favorites. 14-3
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My 17-4 with 8 3/8 inch barrel shoots like a rifle and is my most accurate S&W revolver.
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A great way to get the most out of an 8 & 3/8" K-38 for bullseye shooting is to use a nice set of thumb rest grips with an adjustable palm rest such as Karl Nill grips.
They can make them sized exactly to your hand. I use this style of grip on my Hämmerli free pistol. It has an 11" barrel and is much heavier than a K-38, yet I can "easily" hold for a 60 shot match.


There's also a guy on the the "target talk" forum and the "bullseye-L" forum who makes 3-D printed grips exactly to a digital scan of your hand. He has a wood composite material that looks pretty good, but not as nice as the Nill. But, they cost much less than the Nill!!

http://http://www.nill-grips.com/Pro...olvers_63.html
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well i bought a model 17 no dash (cira 1957) 99% 6" that should mate well w/my 14-3. I then ordered 2 sets of Craig Spegel black walnut grips. Life is good
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I started down that road one time. I ended up with a Model 14 in 6" and 8&3/8" a Model 15 in 2" and 4" a Model 17 in 6" and 8&3/8" and a Model 18 in 4". Now I just have to decide which one to take to the range. But if I could only have 2, I would go with a 6" Model 14 and a 6" Model 17.
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Waldo with those choices I would never make it to the range...I would slip & fall over the drool that spit out of my mouth I was trying 2 choose which one I wanted to take..LOL
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:40 PM
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I find that 8 3/8 barreled revolvers are clumsy and much less desireable for virtually any purpose than the shorter barreled versions.

You might get a little more velocity from the longer barrel, but it isn't significant in any revolver application.

The only benefit might be that, since the sights are the same, you may find that you get more light on either side of the front sight creating a more precise sight picture on the longer barreled revolver than with the shorter.

Since a few strokes with a file will open up the rear sight on either, that's not a benefit worth having on the long barreled gun.

Collectors may find the long barreled gun more desireable since they are less common, for a using gun the shorter barrel is the better buy.
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I found that the target loaded HBWC are too slow for the 8" barrel and the accuracy is negatively affected compared to the 6". That's what Ed Masaki (well known Honolulu bullseye smith) told me a while back and my range time proved him right. A faster load should not be an issue. Depends on your load. It's a non issue with my 8" model 17 and 686 since the bullet is faster. But, if you plan to shoot a slow moving target load then keep that in mind.
In other words, the 8" model 14 requires much more concentration on consistent follow through once the shot is fired offhand. It's a shooter related issue not a barrel accuracy type issue.
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