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Old 01-10-2017, 03:01 PM
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A local guy has these guns for sale for the same 500 dollar price, any advice on which is the better buy. There both in the same shape other than the 28-2 is blue where the 686 is stainless. Thanks.
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Barrel lenghts and condition?

Original factory grips?

Box,papers,tools?
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That is a tough call, but just because it will show wear less and clean up easier, I'd pick the 686.
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Both are sturdy .357 magnums.My first gun was a 28,and owned a few more after that one.The 28 is an aquired taste due to the utility finish compared to the bright blue offered on other models.Not un common for some model 28's to sit on dealer's shelves for many many years before being sold.For a good 20 year run it was considered somewhat of an ugly duckling,where the 686 was sought after.The 28 is more popular now then it has ever been, meaning more people are purposley buying them than being issued one due to Police budgets.But all said and done I personally would go with the 28 at this point in time.

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If I was looking at a table with a 686 and a 28 on it, I wouldn't even see the 686.
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Ask yourself a couple of questions: Am I ever going to want an optical sight? Am I buying it for pleasure and future value increase, or just to own and shoot? Which feels more comfortable in your hand?

If you might want optics and want a great shooter for a long time, buy the 686-4 IF it feels right. No optics in the future-go with the 28-2 as they are taking off in value. I've owned both in four and six inch versions. I'm partial to the 586/686 .357's because they are the perfect size and weight for the cartridge.
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If I was looking at a table with a 686 and a 28 on it, I wouldn't even see the 686.
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Ask yourself a couple of questions: Am I ever going to want an optical sight? Am I buying it for pleasure and future value increase, or just to own and shoot? Which feels more comfortable in your hand?

If you might want optics and want a great shooter for a long time, buy the 686-4 IF it feels right. No optics in the future-go with the 28-2 as they are taking off in value. I've owned both in four and six inch versions. I'm partial to the 586/686 .357's because they are the perfect size and weight for the cartridge.

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Both are good guns...... I have both .......... but the L-frame 686 with it's K-frame size grip and trigger reach fits my hand better.

IMO a 4" 686 is the best general purpose/utility .357 going today.
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At $500, I would buy both. Unless they are beat up, that is a great price for either revolver. Buy them both shoot them both, sell the one you don't like for $600-$650. Get you gun for $350-$400.
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Both are 4 inch guns and show no flame cutting or timing issues. Same guy has a 27-2 6 inch blue model for the same price, it's n decent condition but has a considerable flame cut.

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Both in same condition = what condition????

Is the 686-4 a snubby? Is it 6 or 7 shot

Are they unaltered?

Are the grips original S&W and in VG condition?

**** Not nearly enough info supplied by the OP to make any judgement call

I like the 686-4 snubbies and the 4"
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Hay y'all, great predicament to be in, I have a 686-0 in 4" and a 28-2,4". Both are great guns but I would take the 686 if I could only have one! Appolo has a great idea! That would let you shoot them and pick your favorite, and make a few bucks to boot! If you could buy all three, pick one and sell two and get your pick for free!
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You just changed the calculus in post #11. The 27-2 at $500 is a no-brainer. Flame cutting as a problem is over-rated. Unless it has clearly been abused, it probably just needs a good cleaning.
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Old 01-11-2017, 01:24 AM
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Ok now buy all three for $1500, it's a steal, Sell the one's you don't want and almost get a revolver for free. I wish I could find those prices on three very desirable handguns.
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Same guy has a 27-2 6 inch blue model for the same price, it's n decent condition but has a considerable flame cut.
In that case, if I was looking at a table with a 686, a 28-2 and a 27-2 on it, I wouldn't even see the 686 or 28-2. Ok, they'd be in my peripheral vision, only to haunt me later... Hat tip to CajunBass!
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686, 28-2 and a 27-2, same guy, one stop shopping and a $1500 price tag. That has never, ever happened to me, but is the reason I work so hard to keep a substantial gun slush fund around.
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At $500, I would buy both. Unless they are beat up, that is a great price for either revolver. Buy them both shoot them both, sell the one you don't like for $600-$650. Get you gun for $350-$400.
Brilliant advice. I concur 100%. Plus you would have time to shoot and decide
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id go 27-2

flame cut on an N frame is a self solving "problem".... once its cut to a certain point it can cut no more.
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Welcome to the FORUM? Have you ever fired either model? That may have an effect on what you may want to pick. I have a 586, 4" no dash, 6" 686-3, & a 28 no dash 6". I am into blue guns over stainless. 28, 4" would be my choice. My circumstances are not the same as yours. Let us know how you make out! Bob
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686 guns are easy to find while a 28 is no longer in production. The 27-2 is the jewel of the S&W line and to find a decent one for $500 is a great bargain. You would be wise to buy the 27-2 or the 28-2 because their value will only increase and the quality of those fine gun exceeds any thing in production today.
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All three for $1500......... you're saving at least $500 more likely closer to $900-1000 in my market.
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28 first choice, followed closely by 27 686 distant third NOT THAT I DONT LOVE 686 I DO! but 28 not made anymore...& g8 deal on the 27. now if you got $1500 ....YES THEN ALL 3
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Now that there is a 27-2 in the mix you've complicated things for yourself! The Model 27 is the only Smith with a checkered top strap and rear sight, fine old school craftsmanship you won't find today. If the 27-2 is in decent condition it is a total steal at $500.
I'm with the buy the three for $1500 crowd, and until last year, I'd have done it, now I would have to choose only one, and it would likely be the Model-27.
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Ask yourself a couple of questions: Am I ever going to want an optical sight? Am I buying it for pleasure and future value increase, or just to own and shoot? Which feels more comfortable in your hand?

If you might want optics and want a great shooter for a long time, buy the 686-4 IF it feels right. No optics in the future-go with the 28-2 as they are taking off in value. I've owned both in four and six inch versions. I'm partial to the 586/686 .357's because they are the perfect size and weight for the cartridge.
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In 686 land the -4 is, IMHO, the very best of breed. If I knew where it was I'd beat you to it.

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Perhaps throbs an offer of 1400 for all three?
If you can only afford one consider this:
I agree with posters who find the smaller k or l frame more comfortable in the hand, I had several n frames but never shot them as well as the smaller frames.
I do not know about you but I detest stainless so for me 28. Others like the rust resistance of stainless ( I do not agree even in high humidity I have not had a blued gun rust)
It is a bit easier to find grips holsters and speedloaders for the L frame if that is important.
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I ended up getting 2 of the 3. The 28-2 and 686. The 27 wasn't in as good as shape as the 28 but it's still a good buy. This same guy gets the most older stuff I see around here, he had a mint 27-2 nickel for 650 and a 2.5 inch 66-2 for 350 a few mts ago, both mint. I bought the 66 but wish now I would have bought the 27-2 he had. I would post a few pics if I knew how.
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Both are 4 inch guns and show no flame cutting or timing issues. Same guy has a 27-2 6 inch blue model for the same price, it's n decent condition but has a considerable flame cut.
I'd be spending $1500.
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I ended up getting 2 of the 3. The 28-2 and 686. The 27 wasn't in as good as shape as the 28 but it's still a good buy. This same guy gets the most older stuff I see around here, he had a mint 27-2 nickel for 650 and a 2.5 inch 66-2 for 350 a few mts ago, both mint. I bought the 66 but wish now I would have bought the 27-2 he had. I would post a few pics if I knew how.
Wow, I want to live in your town! A mint 66-2 snubby for $350, really...?! I would have snapped that up in a second! A mint nickel 27-2 for $650; good stuff. That said, congratulations, and you picked 'em how I would have picked them. I always consider condition first.

I own a 28-2, a 686, and three 27-2s. Given the same condition, I'd chose the 28 over the 686 (and I really like the 686...). For the same price and condition, it's a no-brainer to choose the 27-2 over the 28-2, but in your case, the 27-2 sounds like it was just in shooter-grade condition, so I think you chose wisely. Still a good deal on the 27, but the 28 sounds nicer. Just keep your eye out for a nice 27, it'll come your way...

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Obvious answer was get both,
Wondering if the 686-4 is a 6 or 7 shot and is it a SB or RB frame ?

IMO a 7 shot 686 gets a premium over a 70's era N prefix 28-2 but not all 28's are created equal in value.

A 28-2 with the S serial prefix and diamond Magnas or targets gets a premium over later N serial prefix guns with non diamond stocks.
A 28-1 or earlier 4 or 5 screw gun gets the bigger premium over all the above .

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I stopped by the shop again today and I know this isn't the place, but have any of u guys ever heard of a Colt sist 1911. He has one in great condition. It says 1927 on the slide. I took a handfull of pics. Are these old guns worth much.
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We might be better off asking when he lives.

These prices are about 10 years old.
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That is a Argentine manufactured 1911 made on machinery they got from Colt. Heavily buffed and refinished frame so I expect the whole pistol was refinished. I would call it a $300-350 gun. If that was original finish and condition it would be more of a $600-700 gun.
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M28 first choice, m27 too? Buy both n frames. I prefer n frames. Check the gun for sale sights online these South American colt 1911's have gone up in price a lot.

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Buy them all and sell the one or ones you like the least. That's my vote.

Best of luck. Don't wait too long and miss them all.
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I stopped by the shop again today and I know this isn't the place, but have any of u guys ever heard of a Colt sist 1911. He has one in great condition. It says 1927 on the slide. I took a handfull of pics. Are these old guns worth much.
That is a Colt Sistema. They were made in Argentina, but it is a Colt for all intents and purposes.

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All three of you can swing it.
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Ok guys got a few pics of the 27-2. It hasn't been cleaned up but tell me if its worth the 525 asking price.
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Looks like a nice "shooter grade" 27...... from what I see I'd say $525 is a "fair to good deal"....... not the original grips (check underneath for rust.... looks like it might have had rubber Paych's on it)

In my local market I think a LGS would be asking $600-700.
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I guess I need to hold on to my 28-2! I thought I overpaid for it, but it looks like it might become an investment. No box, aftermarket grips, but it's a shooter.

At $500 for all those, I'd be tempted to whip out the credit card. The electric bill can wait...
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Why the 686 for optics?
The 686-4 is already drilled and tapped for a scope base and is easy to add a red dot or scope.

I have a 27-3 8 3/8" and couple of 686-4s , a 2 1/2" and 6". For a gun that is going to be fired often with Magnum loads I would probably rather have the 686 4" over the 28 4". For a collection investment the 28.
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